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No Reward For The Man Who Gave Up Saddam
IOL ^ | 12-20-2003

Posted on 12/20/2003 8:59:54 AM PST by blam

No reward for the man who gave up Saddam

December 20 2003 at 09:57AM

Baghdad - One of Saddam Hussein's top aides turned him over to American forces, according to fresh details on the former Iraqi leader's capture, as the United States administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, said he had escaped an assassination bid earlier this month.

"He was someone I would call his right arm," said Major Stan Murphy, the head of intelligence for the 4th Infantry Division's First Brigade in Saddam's hometown of Tikrit said on Friday of the man who led to Saddam's capture at a hideout near there on December 13.

Murphy said the informant was in detention, ruling out the possibility that he would receive any of the $25-million bounty that the United States had placed on Saddam's head.

"He is a bad man and should rot in jail," the major said.

'He is a bad man and should rot in jail' The man, whose name the military will not reveal, was a longtime aide of Saddam and hailed from one of five major tribes in a 20km stretch around Tikrit, the fallen dictator's hometown.

In addition to helping Saddam elude the Americans for about eight months, the man, who along with four or five other Iraqis helped the fugitive dictator implement his orders to the resistance for attacks, finance the insurgency and provide combattants with weaponry, according to Murphy.

There were four to nine tiers of the resistance, Murphy said.

US overseer Paul Bremer, meanwhile, said that he had survived an attack against him on December 6 near Baghdad airport.

"That's correct," Bremer told reporters on Friday in the southern city of Basra when asked about the incident and without providing further details.

The blast was detonated by remote control But a senior US defense official in Washington said later that a roadside explosion blew out tires of a lead vehicle in a convoy carrying Bremer as he returned from seeing off visiting US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld at Baghdad airport.

A windshield in the vehicle carrying Bremer was cracked by the force of the explosion, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

However, the official said the attack was not believed to be specifically directed at Bremer but at "targets of opportunity" on an airport road that had been the scene of past attacks on convoys with improvised explosive devices.

Bremer's spokesman Dan Senor said it was the first perceived attack on Bremer, who heads the US-led coalition that is administering the country after the overthrow of former president Saddam Hussein by US coalition forces in April.

In Baghdad, one woman died Friday and eight people were wounded when a homeless shelter run by Iraq's largest Shiite political group collapsed, blamed by a US general on a structural defect and not a bomb as Iraqi police said earlier.

The flattening of the shelter marked the second time this week US officials disputed Iraqi claims of deliberate violence, following the explosion in Baghdad of a tanker truck which police said was loaded with explosives.

The building collapsed on families sleeping in the west Baghdad compound of the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI).

"One woman died and eight other people were injured from the explosion in premises occupied by three families," said Mohsen al-Hakim, a nephew of Abdel Aziz al-Hakim, the head of SCIRI and current chairman of Iraq's US-appointed Governing Council.

He said the blast was detonated by remote control.

Mohsen al-Hakim blamed "agents of the old regime and terrorists" for the bombing, which came two days after his cousin and SCIRI member Muhannad al-Hakim was gunned down outside his Baghdad home.

But US Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, speaking at a press conference in Baghdad, said he had received a report indicating that there was no explosion. At first he said he knew nothing of the incident.

"The Iraqi police service reported to 1st Armoured Division that the building collapsed due to a structural integrity problem," he said.

On Saturday, the US military had no further comment about the incident and told AFP Iraq's interim interior ministry should be contacted for further information.

They were not available when reached by telephone.

Meanwhile, a senior Iraqi police official said Friday that some 260 members of the new Iraqi security forces had been killed in attacks since the fall of Saddam's regime.

But Kimmitt Friday put the number at 116.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallen; gave; informant; iraqipolice; jpaulbremer; man; reward; saddam; tips; up; viceisclosed

1 posted on 12/20/2003 8:59:54 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Well, that answers one of the big questions.

The money should be given to the soldiers who dragged Saddam's sorry ass out of the hole.
2 posted on 12/20/2003 9:03:28 AM PST by NautiNurse ('Rats will steal everything from your wallet to your underwear)
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To: blam
Well, the USA better not offer any money for anything else because they will not be believed.
3 posted on 12/20/2003 9:08:11 AM PST by chicagolady (Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night)
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To: NautiNurse
Aside fron this guy being a thug, the reason he isn't getting the money is because the information wasn't willingly given, if you know what I mean.
4 posted on 12/20/2003 9:08:50 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: chicagolady
you don't get rewards for giving info when the info has to be beat out of you.
5 posted on 12/20/2003 9:10:11 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: blam
Well , Uncle Sam could do
the right thing and split up the
$$$Twenty Five Million Dollars$$$
equally among the all of the "FALLEN" U.S.military HEROS who gave the ultimate sacrifice in order for the 4th I.D. to nab the goat smelling scum bag murdering SOB!
How about it W.? Do the right thing...
The families of the FALLEN could use the money to attempt to try to get their lives back on track...
6 posted on 12/20/2003 9:10:19 AM PST by Jack Armstrong (a Post Modern America adrift in the Dark)
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To: blam
If the aid is responsible for the capture of SoDamnInsane, he should get the money. A deal is a deal. If the Iraqis know that we will not pay out, it might slow down the capture of bad people and put more of our troops in jeopardy.
7 posted on 12/20/2003 9:10:42 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: blam

8 posted on 12/20/2003 9:13:54 AM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
I don't think so. This wasn't an innocent Iraqi giving us a tip. This was intel culled from a captured enemy. You don't reward a guy who has been trying to kill our troops.
9 posted on 12/20/2003 9:14:11 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Federal judiciary is a terrorist organization)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
"If the aid is responsible for the capture of SoDamnInsane, he should get the money. A deal is a deal."

I thought our policy is not to make deals with terrorists. Just because a rat sings to save himself does not mean we should pay him for it.

10 posted on 12/20/2003 9:14:51 AM PST by LADY J
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To: blam
Thats awesome this guy could've bargained for a free pad in the USA plus 25 mill. for this info. Instead he gets the hangmans noose. I hope he knows this!!!!
11 posted on 12/20/2003 9:15:37 AM PST by Coroner
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To: knak
What a cool pic! Those lads have looks on their faces that imply they mean business.
12 posted on 12/20/2003 9:18:17 AM PST by I_saw_the_light (God bless America, US Armed Forces, and President Bush!)
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To: NautiNurse
Like that would ever happen. The closest they will get to any money is what Bruce Willis pledged.
13 posted on 12/20/2003 9:30:41 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: blam
Anyone, domestic or foreign, who trusts the United States Government is a *FOOL* and and *IDIOT*.

The offering of rewards by the US and then welshing is not new:

1 A few years ago a former spy sued the government in federal court in Virginia/(or D C) saying that the CIA had promised that he would be paid if he performed certain services but had not. The government had the court dismiss the case without a trial based on the Supreme Court's decision in Totten v. United States. In that post-Civil War case, the Court ruled that the estate of an agent hired by President Lincoln to spy on the Confederacy could not sue the government to enforce the secret agreement. Focusing on the inherently secretive nature of espionage activity, the Court erected a barrier against "any suit in a court of justice, the trial of which would inevitably lead to the disclosure of matters which the law itself regards as confidential." Suits filed by spies against the government would fall into this category.

2. Recall the guy who shot and killed a few CIA people in Va. a few years ago? He would have looked like a real hero at home in Pakistan if he had said he did it for Islam, for Osama, etc. Yet he never said anything like that. Instead, it seems that the US government had cheated his family after making an agreement with them. So, he did'nt sue, he shot.

Did the US think that the whereabouts of Saddam would be known by a choirboy,. someone "clean" enough to receive the promised reward?

What kind of a message does this latest welshing send to the people in the Northwest Frontier area that might know where Osama is:
"Keep it your yourself"
14 posted on 12/20/2003 1:46:41 PM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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To: LADY J; thoughtomator
Good luck capturing any more bad guys!

Have you never heard of the saying my enemy's enemy is my friend?

15 posted on 12/20/2003 7:32:32 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
An enemy revealing information under interrogation after being captured is still an enemy.
16 posted on 12/20/2003 7:34:02 PM PST by thoughtomator (The Federal judiciary is a terrorist organization)
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