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To: AndyObermann
Just end it. It's unconstitutional. It's absurd. It's full of fraud.
3 posted on 12/19/2003 7:40:56 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Andy,

I used to think exactly like you. If there was an internet at that time, I would have posted like you. But no more ...

You see, both my wife and I, after decades of hard work and paying taxes (I was in mangement, and she was a nurse), came down with a legal disability in the same year. I developed a seizure disorder in which I would have 50-70 seizures per day. My wife is entitled to her privacy, in this forum.

And so, with no income between us, we took every bit of assistance we could get, including food stamps. Friends, family, and church helped, but that only goes so far. The government programs allowed us to live independently.

Now, we're working to get back our health and our lives, and there's hope over the horizon (probably early next year).

The whole time I've been "on the dole", I maintained my conservative values and principles. I agree that there's questions about the "constitutionality" of entitlement programs. I agree that there's rampant abuse and corruption in the system. I don't agree that it's absurd. And if it was "just ended", my wife and I BOTH would likely have died.

Instead of dying, however, we stand a good chance of becoming taxpayers again, in the very near future. It was these programs that saved us, and it's our determination to get ahead in life that will get us off of the programs.

You should know that the disenfranchisement of me WOULD be un-Constitutional. And NO ONE the H*** is going to tell me what to eat.

How's your health, Andy?
13 posted on 12/19/2003 8:00:40 AM PST by Stephen Ritter
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To: Jack Black
**Just end it. It's unconstitutional. It's absurd. It's full of fraud.**

I agree. We were in a grocery store lineup last year when they still used the 'food stamps' and not the card. Right in front of us were two hispanic women arguing with the cashier. Finally, the cashier started stamping something and we saw that they were food stamps. We were behind them, and on the way out, we saw them putting their groceries into a brand new Ford Eddie Bauer Expedition SUV. I'm fed up with feeding people who don't need it. They are milking the system, and we have to pay for them.

111 posted on 12/20/2003 11:23:39 AM PST by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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