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Is The Search For Weapons Over?
Independent (UK) ^ | 12-19-2003 | Rupert Cornwell/Andrew Grice/Anne Penketh

Posted on 12/18/2003 3:47:10 PM PST by blam

Is the search for weapons over?

* After eight months with no discoveries, mission chief quits;

* Fewer than 40 of the 1,400 inspectors still in the field;

* As attacks on US military grow, WMD hunt no longer a priority

By Rupert Cornwell, Andrew Grice and Anne Penketh

19 December 2003

After eight months of fruitless search, George Bush has in effect washed his hands of the hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, in whose name the United States and Britain went to war last March.

David Kay, the CIA adviser who headed the US-led search for WMD, is to quit, before submitting his assessment to the US President in February.

The departure of Mr Kay, a strong believer in the case for toppling Saddam Hussein because of his alleged weapons, comes as a particular embarrassment to Tony Blair. This week he maintained that Mr Kay had uncovered "massive evidence" of a network of WMD laboratories.

For Mr Bush, the missing weapons are a politically charged issue. Pressed to explain why his administration had asserted Saddam possessed weapons, when at best fragmentary evidence of programmes had been found, Mr Bush replied: "So what's the difference? "If he were to acquire weapons, he would be the danger," he said in an interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer.

Mr Bush's public dismissal of the weapons issue is the latest move by Washington and London to changethe justification for war. Weapons of mass destruction, and even weapons programmes, are no longer being put forward as the reason for the invasion.

Senior US and British officials now dwell almost exclusively on the atrocities perpetrated by Saddam against his people, and the opportunity provided by his removal for a regeneration of the Middle East.

Opinion polls point to the strategy working. The US public has forgotten what it was being told every day only nine months ago about the "imminent threat" the former Iraqi leader posed to the US, while the capture of Saddam last Saturday had boosted the President's approval ratings to a healthy 60 per cent-plus.

Mr Kay's departure as head of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) is said to be for family and personal reasons. He is not in Iraq at present but on holiday in Washington.

Mr Kay himself sounds increasingly doubtful that chemical or biological weapons will be found, and is said to be resentful that the US military was less than helpful to his experts, preferring to prioritise the counter-insurgency.

Publicly, Mr Kay insists, and points to his first interim report this autumn as proof, that the ISG has already unearthed evidence of ongoing weapons programmes. But he acknowledged on the BBC's Panorama programme three weeks ago he was prepared to be proved wrong that no weapons existed.

Downing Street played down reports of Mr Kay's departure as "rumour, not fact", and denied that Mr Blair had given up hope that evidence of WMD would be found. Privately, British ministers cling to the hope of finding evidence of weapons programmes rather than the actual chemical or biological weapons systems. They hope Saddam's capture will end the "climate of fear" among Iraqi scientists and enable them to be honest about his regime.

This week Mr Blair was accused by the Tories and Lib Dems of "spinning" the ISG's interim report after he said they had "found massive evidence of a huge system of clandestine laboratories, workings by scientists, plans to develop long range ballistic missiles".

The ISG, set up in June, has a nominal staff of 1,400 specialists, analysts and translators, all theoretically dedicated to the search for WMD. But the numbers in the field have been less: two teams of 20 at most. In October, the group's strength dwindled further when Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, ordered many personnel to be transferred to the regular forces to help counter the growing rebellion.

Despite the capture and interrogation of many senior Iraqi officials, there has been no breakthrough. Saddam is said to have told investigators what Iraq told the UN before the invasion: that it no longer had banned weapons.

But the seizure of Saddam has given some American officials new hope that banned materials will be found.

Peter Kilfoyle, a former Defence minister, said Saddam's capture had not relieved the pressure on Mr Blair for weapons to be tracked down.

The former deputy chief UN weapons inspector Charles Duelfer said: "What is important is Saddam's intentions. The case can be made that he may not have had existing weapons, but his intention was to outlast the inspectors and reconstruct his weapons capabilities."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: davidkay; iraq; over; search; weapons; wmd

1 posted on 12/18/2003 3:47:10 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Answer: No.
2 posted on 12/18/2003 3:51:35 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: blam
Bump!
3 posted on 12/18/2003 3:52:36 PM PST by The Mayor (If God could Vote, he would vote with the Right wing conspiracy)
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To: blam
Hardly. An Army Reserve Chemical Company out of Arlington Heights IL was just activated and left for Iraq last weekend.
4 posted on 12/18/2003 3:54:16 PM PST by cookcounty (Howard Dean, mayor of a picturesque small town in New England.)
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To: blam
No mention in this story of the admission of Iraqi Lt. Col. al-Dabbagh who said that WMD warheads were delivered to his unit in late 2002.
5 posted on 12/18/2003 4:00:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
No mention in this story of the admission of Iraqi Lt. Col. al-Dabbagh who said that WMD warheads were delivered to his unit in late 2002.

This sounds familiar but do you have a link? Searched but can't find it. thanx,

6 posted on 12/18/2003 4:02:44 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: blam
Why are liberals such idiots they can not comprehend one point?

If Iraq did not have WMD as Bush and Blair stated, and that everybody else in the world acknowledges they had, then where are they now?

Show the evidence that they were destroyed if that's the case you pirxster whinny ass libs?

7 posted on 12/18/2003 4:06:20 PM PST by sirchtruth
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To: Dr. Frank
Here's one. The best one would be to the London Telegraph story. It was posted here, but I don't know the title.

link

8 posted on 12/18/2003 4:07:56 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: blam
You don't need the idiot "inspectors" when you have the 4th Infantry Division on site. The liberals and Jihad aplogists would love to see the search ended, I'm sure. However, watch for another "October Surprise" that will force the DemocRATs to soil their underwear.
9 posted on 12/18/2003 4:09:03 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: blam
George Bush has in effect washed his hands of the hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction

Scuze me, Mr Pantysinawad, but I don't believe heard the chorus from the fat lady yet. This aint TV. It's going to take more than 13 weeks.

10 posted on 12/18/2003 4:10:58 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Dog Gone
Thanks. (I'd forgotten it was the same guy who came forward as the source for "45 minutes"...) best,
11 posted on 12/18/2003 4:15:13 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: blam
The US public has forgotten what it was being told every day only nine months ago about the "imminent threat"

Ah, the "imminent threat" meme. By employing it the authors reveal themselves to be either woefully ignorant or blatant liars.

12 posted on 12/18/2003 4:19:35 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: sirchtruth
Show the evidence that they were destroyed if that's the case you pirxster whinny ass libs?

Nail - hammer - contact!!!

I have told libs that they kept meticulous records just like the Nazis and could not provide the proof of destruction. They give me glassy look and then start on their stupid "talking points". I shoot those down too.

Then they get loud and I get away from them.

Once again, good point.

13 posted on 12/18/2003 4:20:12 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: blam
No, the search has just had a shot in the arm with the capture of SH. However, that, "So what's the difference? " comment certainly didn't sit well with me.
14 posted on 12/18/2003 4:22:01 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Dog Gone
"No mention in this story of the admission of Iraqi Lt. Col. al-Dabbagh who said that WMD warheads were delivered to his unit in late 2002."

Also no mention of the fact that for years - up to and including this year - the Clinton administration and most leading Democrats also assured us that Saddam possessed WMD's. Faiure to mention that fact makes it appear that the WMD argument was an 11th-hour fabrication by the Bush administration to justify the war.
15 posted on 12/18/2003 4:22:21 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
We shouldn't expect anything more from the Independent. It's the furthest left of the major non-tabloid UK newspapers.

In my opinion, it makes the NY Times seem almost fair in comparison.

16 posted on 12/18/2003 4:33:29 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
No mention in this story of the admission of Iraqi Lt. Col. al-Dabbagh who said that WMD warheads were delivered to his unit in late 2002.

Did the LtC mention what his unit did with the WMD?

17 posted on 12/18/2003 4:58:14 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
He said he was called back to Baghdad to assist in the air defense when the war started, but that he thinks the Saddam Fedayeen took them and hid them somewhere in Iraq.
18 posted on 12/18/2003 5:05:14 PM PST by Dog Gone
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