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Ninth Circuit Decriminalizes Aid to Terror Groups
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | Dec 15, 2003 | David Freddoso

Posted on 12/16/2003 6:21:07 PM PST by Federalist 78

In a bitterly ironic counterpoint to the Supreme Court decision upholding restrictions on political speech by U.S. citizens, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit last week overturned legal provisions that prohibited providing "personnel" and "training" to foreign terrorist organizations because, the court said, such acts could be construed as forms of free expression.

Carter-appointed Judge Harry Pregerson (see "Nullify the Nutty Ninth") wrote the opinion striking down parts of the 1996 Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act (AEDPA), which forbids giving "material support" to groups listed as terrorist organizations, and which defines "material support" to include "personnel" and "training." These terms, he said, "bring within their ambit constitutionally protected speech and advocacy."

The San Francisco-based 9th Circuit has drawn criticism for many of its left-leaning decisions, including its opinion declaring the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional in public schools. But this latest ruling, said Kevin Watson, spokesman for the Washington-based Law Enforcement Alliance of America, surpasses the others in that it unreasonably restricts the government's effort in the war on terrorism.

"As ridiculous as the Pledge of Allegiance decision was, this is a ridiculous decision that could cost American lives," said Watson. If upheld, he said, it could even stop prosecution of someone who knowingly taught a terrorist to fly a jetliner.

Among the plaintiffs who sued to kill the law were the Humanitarian Law Project and the Tamils of Northern California. The Humanitarian Law Project had formerly aided the political wing of the Partiya Karkeran Kurdistan (PKK)—a left-wing Kurdish resistance group in Turkey—but stopped doing so when the State Department designated that group a terrorist organization. The Tamils of Northern California were similarly restrained in aiding the Tamil Tiger rebels of Sri Lanka.

Tamil Tigers

Both groups said they provided personnel and training only for humanitarian and advocacy purposes, not for terrorism.

"Personnel," wrote Pregerson, "could be understood to bring into its scope Humanitarian Law Project's members' efforts to urge members of Congress to support the release of Kurdish political prisoners in Turkey."

Pregerson added that it would be unconstitutional to forbid Americans from helping terrorist groups hone their skills in politics and negotiation.

"Humanitarian Law Project's efforts to train PKK members to use humanitarian and international human rights laws to seek a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Turkey could reasonably fall within the scope of 'training,'" he wrote.

Former Rep. Bob Barr (R.-Ga.) was the primary congressional sponsor of AEDPA, but has become an ACLU-type libertarian since leaving Congress—seemed to backtrack from part of his own law in an interview with HUMAN EVENTS. "I don't think that there's anything that magically makes one of these organizations a true terrorist organization simply because some people at the State Department decide that it is," said Barr. But it was Barr's AEDPA itself that authorized the State Department to designate foreign organizations as terrorist groups. Under Barr's law, such a designation is not even subject to court appeal.

Barr conceded, however, that the 9th Circuit's ruling "went too far" by preventing the government from prosecuting those who recruit or train terrorists. "The government would be wise to appeal this decision," he said.

"This is not a Chicken Little situation," said Barr. "The government is not all of a sudden going to have to open the doors to the jails and let a bunch of terrorists out. That's not going to happen."

But on the same day the 9th Circuit struck down the AEDPA's ban on providing material support to terrorist organizations, a federal judge in upstate New York sentenced a Yemeni man—one of six arrested in Lackawanna, N.Y., in September 2002—for violating it.

Mukhtar al-Bakri, 23, was sentenced to ten years in prison for traveling to Afghanistan and training with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda terrorists in the spring prior to the group's terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Al-Bakri and the five others pled guilty to the charges of giving "material support to a foreign terrorist organization."

David Freddoso is Assistant Editor for HUMAN EVENTS.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; aclu; aedpa; bobbarr; cfr; harrypregerson; hlp; humanitarianlawproj; jihadinamerica; moneytrail
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1 posted on 12/16/2003 6:21:08 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: Federalist 78
Somebody needs to take these clowns out. How much does it take to impeach circuit court judges? Can that even be done?
2 posted on 12/16/2003 6:26:00 PM PST by basil
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To: Federalist 78
Barr conceded, however, that the 9th Circuit's ruling "went too far" by preventing the government from prosecuting those who recruit or train terrorists. "The government would be wise to appeal this decision," he said.

Winning an appeal over the Nutty Ninth is child's play.

3 posted on 12/16/2003 6:26:22 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Federalist 78
Political free speech banned. Using Terrorism to exhibit free speech protected. The is getting #*#&*#* crazy.
4 posted on 12/16/2003 6:28:15 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Federalist 78
Who needs enemies with judges like this. I can't imagine what the world would be like if these people were in charge of our country. It would either be part of the USSR, or part of Nazi Germany, either one. Makes me sick.
5 posted on 12/16/2003 6:28:56 PM PST by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: basil
Law Review Article

Topics in Judicial History

6 posted on 12/16/2003 6:31:24 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: Federalist 78
So let me see if I have this right...
The Ninth says that we can't own guns because the 2nd doesn't apply to the person, but to the "State", and in no way garantee's the right to "Keep and bear arms".

But the Ninth, in this article, says its OK to give aid and support to our country's enemies, including money, weapons, and place of refuge, because it's "free speach" and falls under the 1st Amendment.

Am I missing something here???

...or are these people nuts.
7 posted on 12/16/2003 6:32:44 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Lions and Tigers and Bears... who cares.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Reorganization Act of 2003 (S. 562) March 6, 2003

Ms. MURKOWSKI (for herself, Mr. Stevens, Mr. Burns, Mr. Craig, Mr. Crapo, Mr. Inhofe, and Mr. Smith) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Reorganization Act of 2003 H. R. 1033February 27, 2003

Mr. SIMPSON (for himself, Mr. WALDEN of Oregon, Mr. NETHERCUTT, and Mr. OTTER) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

8 posted on 12/16/2003 6:35:40 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: Federalist 78
The only thing that the 9th circuit could that would surprise me would be to uphold the Constituton.

Any day now they will declare the Constitution unconstitutional.

If they do declare the Constitutional unconstitutional, all they will have to say is, "It is the law" and about a third of the members of this forum will jump on the bandwagon.
9 posted on 12/16/2003 6:36:40 PM PST by sport
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To: Federalist 78
These people are hell bent on the destruction of America. They must not have any kids.
10 posted on 12/16/2003 6:38:11 PM PST by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: microgood

They must not have any kids. Hopefully, they SHALL not have any kids either.

11 posted on 12/16/2003 6:42:36 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: sport
In a bitterly ironic counterpoint to the Supreme Court decision upholding restrictions on political speech by U.S. citizens

Constitutional Law as Theatre of the Absurd.

12 posted on 12/16/2003 6:43:17 PM PST by bvw
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To: basil
I received a petition in the mail today from Citizens United Foundation to impeach Reinhardt. What a gaggle of goons. Couldn't murder be construed as a form of free expression?
13 posted on 12/16/2003 6:46:34 PM PST by abigailsmybaby
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To: bvw
Right you are.

When was the last the Constitution was interpreted the way the Founding Fathers intended for it to be?
14 posted on 12/16/2003 6:59:28 PM PST by sport
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To: Doctor Raoul
What makes you sure that the Supreme Court would overrule it?
15 posted on 12/16/2003 7:15:39 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Federalist 78
The U.S. Supreme Court just banned some forms of peaceful political expression and the 9th Circus Court just legalized some forms of violent political expression. Hmmm. Well, if they insist...
16 posted on 12/16/2003 7:20:49 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Federalist 78
Gad, all these judges (including Zany Day O'Connor) need to be retired. Immediately.
17 posted on 12/16/2003 7:26:31 PM PST by Libertina (FReepers of a feather flock together...isn't life great?)
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To: cavtrooper21
But the Ninth, in this article, says its OK to give aid and support to our country's enemies, including money, weapons, and place of refuge, because it's "free speach" and falls under the 1st Amendment.

According to the Ninth, you do not have the right to own a gun, but you do have the right to teach terrorists to use the gun that you yourself don't have the right to own.

American liberalism has come down to this lunacy.

18 posted on 12/16/2003 7:38:29 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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