Rush seeks to keep med records private

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[Lucky Dog]

The cynicism displayed on both our parts shows that my worst fears are already realized. The rule of law is failing and becoming the rule of man... a proven recipe for tyranny.

[ClintonBeGone]

The cynicism displayed on both our parts shows that my worst fears are already realized. The rule of law is failing and becoming the rule of man... a proven recipe for tyranny.

I feel much better knowing YOU DA MAN! :)

[Lucky Dog]

Unfortunately, even being DA MAN is insufficient to turn the tide alone. Remember united we stand!!! Divided we fall and so does our Republic. Signing off...

[harpo11]

Doesn't matter if he criticized Clinton or not. Clinton should have opened his medical records for public review.

Reason: The president can send our sons and daughters to war, Rush Limbaugh cannot.

[Lazamataz]

Item: HIPAA, a law which lays down strict requirements and stiff penalties for mishandling and releasing private medical records. The police have ALREADY violated it by releasing a list of his prescriptions.

Fool. The police are above the law. The sooner you get that, the quicker we recall the Secret Police who've been sent to whisk you away for your beating.

BTW: This scenario will absolutely be the American norm soon enough.

[harpo11]

I can't even discuss my husband's insurance benefits without him telling the benefits administrator that it is ok for his wife to call on his behalf. We even had to complete an authorization form.

This law was definitely passed into law by a bunch of people who despise the institution of marriage. What does a wife do when her husband tells her it is her job to handle insurance matters and the HIPPA Law interferes with his rights to tell me what to do?

I cannot believe that this persecution of Rush is not politically motivated. What deviant pleasures did the police department and DA derive when they released his medical records to the public?

I'm wondering if they are getting "kickbacks" for their political witch hunting?

I'm also wondering if someone has been trying to bribe Rush or has engaged in extortion?

[NonValueAdded]

Interesting constitutional discussion, but this is a Florida issue, not a federal one (yet!). It is the state prosecutor trying to make a case under Florida law. As I posted above, the Florida Constitution has a specific right to privacy and as your discussion points out, all rights not enumerated in the US Constitution devolve to the state.

There is probably a case to be made that the allegedly criminal acts are public record, but since a redacted version of Rush's records was not used, a line was crossed. If it was the HIPPA line, then federal issues do creep back in. I do think Rush has a technical win here, but Florida's county courts are pretty flaky as Schindler/Schiavo demonstrates.

[joesbucks]

I agree with your difference between Rush the entertainer and Clinton the elected official. The difference among conservatives is they were looking for sexual disease treatment in order to shame him from the run.

[ClintonBeGone]

The difference among conservatives is they were looking for sexual disease treatment in order to shame him from the run.

After the way they conducted themselves, do you really think the Clintons could be shamed?

[joesbucks]

Why do you think so much effort was used to unearth the bimbos for the bimbo eruptions. Conservatives hoped these eruptions would shame Slick. Even during impeachment, the thought was that he would have been so embarassed that he would leave office. He fooled them all by acting with rugged individualism. He took his disgrace, picked himself up by his boot straps and kept on going on. He looked adversity in the eye, stared it down and moved on, much to the amazement of activist conservatives. Look, I hate to be seen as being supportive of the Clinton's as in general I don't. However, let's be honest. The primary focus of conservatives in getting his medical records released during the 92 campaign and early in his occupation of the White House was to hopefully have it uncover the existance of an STD. Believe me, there wasn't a single conservative that worried that he'd have a heart attack in office, have cancer or some other disease which would end his tenure early.

[ClintonBeGone]

It sounds like we agree - the Clintons can not be shamed.

[joesbucks]

Yes on that we agree.

What Clinton did do raise lower the bar on answering these types of charges. He didn't deal with the sexual charges, Bush didn't deal with the cocaine accusations. Both blew them off.

[ClintonBeGone]

First of all, Bush wasn't charged with doing coke in the oval office. Second, he did address all those charges during the campaign. Facts are a wonderful thing if you use them.

[bvw]

all rights not enumerated in the US Constitution devolve to the state.

No! We MUST re-educate ourselves in the clear framing of the words and concepts in the Bill of Rights:

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

That is, except for certain rights enumerated in the charter, ALL OTHER RIGHTS are reserved to the PEOPLE. The People, NOT the States.

POWERS are delegated to the Federal Government by the People, via the Constitution. Some POWERS are prohibited to the States by the Constitution. ALL OTHER POWERS are reserved to the States, first, and then the People.

[joesbucks]

Au contrare. First the orginal allegations against Clinton were never answered and only after the Jone case brought out Lewinsky did he have to admit his relationship with her. By his hiding from the orginal charges, he lowered the bar.

Please provide where President Bush fully answered the cocaine question. All I can find is he ducked the question. I can't find a hard yes or no. Yes, facts are a wonderful thing, if they can be found or used correctly.

[joesbucks]

I will, of course, cooperate fully."

Funny,no one seems to want to deal with this.

[ClintonBeGone]

Joesbuck: Bush didn't deal with the cocaine accusations.

Clintonbegone: First of all, Bush wasn't charged with doing coke in the oval office. Second, he did address all those charges during the campaign. Facts are a wonderful thing if you use them.

Joesbuck: Please provide where President Bush fully answered the cocaine question.

Ha, just like your liberal brothers, you change the terms of the debate in mid stream.  You said Bush didn't 'deal' with the issue, I said he did.  In fact, he's said over and over again that when he was young and stupid he was young and stupid.  Suddenly that's not enough for you and you want a cite where he 'fully answered' the question.  Game, set, match my DU friend. 

 

[joesbucks]

Bush used the evasive answer he was young and stupid or was it youthful indescression? Clinton used the evasive answer "I have done things to hurt my marriage". Both are evasive answers which allow for "I did some stupid things and answered those with my evasion" when something comes up, yet allows denability if pinpointed.

Bush has never said yes I did use cocaine or no I didn't. Clinton until the Lewinsky/Jones situation didn't admit to extra-marital affairs, only that he had done things to hurt his marriage. Both are in the same boat, except Clinton at least had to admit Geniffer Flowers when put under oath.

[joesbucks]

And you've got to sick Howlin on me? OMG. Why not Phi Kap Mom too.

[ClintonBeGone]

And you've got to sick Howlin on me? OMG. Why not Phi Kap Mom too.

I'm trying to determine whether you're a general distruptor, or a simple Bush hater. I have no doubt that Howlin and PKM will smoke you out.