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To: CHICAGOFARMER
If your typing and proof-reading are indicative of your blood alcohol content, I'd stay home tonight;)

In all seriousness, I find your 300 stat highly suspect. The media jump on every single case of innocent deaths caused by police; I don't recall 300 such stories in the 40 odd years I've been around. If such a stat were true we'd be hearing about such deaths almost every night on the liberal news, and believe me, if it was true Dan and Ted and Peter would be on it 24-7.

77 posted on 12/08/2003 7:05:46 PM PST by yooper
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To: yooper
If your typing and proof-reading are indicative of your blood alcohol content, I'd stay home tonight;)

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fifty years of typing and my fingers no longer work like they use to work. Sorry the medication I am on makes my fingers go to sleep.

81 posted on 12/08/2003 7:07:36 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
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To: yooper
In all seriousness, I find your 300 stat highly suspect. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Here is a letter to the editor I researched and was published in the Chicago rags. I found that C. Cramer, and D Kopel :shall issue: The new wave of concealed handgusn permit laws". Independent Institue issue paper. October 17, 1994. that 11% of all police shootings kill an innocent person. To Editor for Editorial page.

Citizens in 44 states “Do not fear Gun Owners who “Citizen Carry” (CC).”

In 1986 only eight (8) states allow “citizen carry” (CC) and crime was on the rise. In the year 2001, 42 states now have CC laws on the books and crime continues to drop. Researchers to the self-defense issue, has noticed crime begin dropping immediately after enactment in each state and showed up four - five years before the Brady law. Our Indiana neighbor has issued 350,000 CC permits and zero (0) has been revoked for a firearms homicide. In these states Police Chief’s are pleasantly surprised in the quality of the applicant.

There are 21 times more (est. 2,500,000) CC owners than “street” policeman (120,000) in the United States. Policemen killed 330 innocent citizens in 1996 and CC’ers (30). Statistically you are 300 times more likely to be innocently shot by a policeman than a CC owner. Sidebar: 700,000 Doctors kill by mistake 90,000 people annually in our nation. Our hearts should go out to each and every family and our heads need to be crystal clear on this issue. Also Citizen Carry citizens commit less crime that even Police officers as a statistical group.

Women are the fastest growing group of gun owners in the United States. “Dial 911 and Die” is real with 911 response times from 5 to 30 minutes. Police only stop 4% in the act violent crime. What logic would as representative suggest to a woman to “talk down” the rapist with AIDS or HIV or STD? 10 minutes is a long time. Get your watch and start talking. Do GG (Gun Grabbers) honestly think the rapist will use a condom? Women should be outraged at the GG for forcing such defenseless thinking. Did you know most rapes last from 2 to 4 hours.

Question? Why do you think, judges, probation officers, bail bondman, attorneys and social workers are given the right to CC or decide to carry illegally? If you ask they will tell you, they are dealing bad guys everyday and know the mindset of these early release felons.

Bad guys will always have guns. It is “dumb and dumber” to believe America is safer by taking away firearms from honest American Citizens or to make felons. Anti gun groups and faulty ordinances in Chicago land are doing just the opposite providing “gun free zones” for criminals to operate in.

Most all State Statues are written to protect the general public not the individual. It is the individual’s responsibility to protect themselves and their families at home and away from home.

Road Rage: It is a myth that CC owners kill cops, or citizens with Road Rage. In the United States over the last twenty years only two (2) known road rage shootings have occurred. Believe me if Road Rage shootings were a problem, the Gun Grabbers (GG’ers), would let us know. One case, after a car accident in TX, the driver begins to punch the man in the face, breaking his eye socket, nose. Profusely bleeding from the face and fearing for his life, the 65 yr old driver pulled his gun and shot the road raged driver saving his life.

· My personal thoughts: Every solid citizen who elects to “CC” carry’s a tremendous burden. This burden is to stay legal, or be charged with a felony or at least a grand jury indictment, should they ever break one of 25,000 gun laws or kill an attacking criminal. We have plenty of criminal laws to put them away for life should any CC’er turn to the dark side. · Jesus in the Bible was smart enough to cast blame on Cain for killing Abel, not blame the stone. Those who believe the “GG” fear spinners need to wake up. · One final closing thought, Christian religions and other religions teach the need to protect ones self. Jesus said in Luke 22:36 30 He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. The sword was the finest weapon outside of the home of its time, far better than rocks, clubs, and stones.

Department of Justice, FBI, CIA, statistics and facts

* Facts and Figures ver3.1 *(700k file)

http://home.attbi.com/~guys/guns.html

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84 posted on 12/08/2003 7:16:21 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
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