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This policy by police departments to always have a bullet in the pipe if you are in law enforcement is WRONG. Hmm...on the one hand we have chuck taylor, massaad ayoob, john farnam, clint smith, Col. cooper, Ken Hackathorn, and Lous Auerbach.(sp?) on the other we have; CHICAGOARMER.

The above trainers, without exception, recomend Condition One Think I'll go with their judgement, particularly when I read:

In the old days a revolver was carried with the hammer on a blank chamber.

you are aware, of course that the reason behind that was to avoid accidental discharges if the hammer was struck, aren't you? And you certainly must be aware that the overwhelming majority of modern duty DA revolvers incorporate a transfer bar to preclude such a thing happening, right?

And finally, if your concern is that the officer will inadvertently cock and fire his weapon, the hammer would NOT come down on the empty chamber it had been resting on, but rather on the LOADED chamber that had rotated into line when the trigger/hammer was operated? In other words carrying on an empty chamber has ZERO bearing on the likelihood or prevention of an ND?

In the old days a revolver was carried with the hammer on a blank chamber.

you are aware, of course that the reason behind that was to avoid accidental discharges if the hammer was struck, aren't you? And you certainly must be aware that the overwhelming majority of modern duty DA revolvers incorporate a transfer bar to preclude such a thing happening, right?

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I am very aware of the new transfer bar and the funciton of the bar.

The real issue is the change in the attitide of those departments changing from peace officer who kept the peace to swat entry was innocents killed for wrong reasons, police drawn downs of felony stops with guns pointed.

Remember an innocent citizen life is worth less than a police office.

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This policy by police departments to always have a bullet in the pipe if you are in law enforcement is WRONG. Hmm...on the one hand we have chuck taylor, massaad ayoob, john farnam, clint smith, Col. cooper, Ken Hackathorn, and Lous Auerbach.(sp?) on the other we have; CHICAGOARMER.

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Would it nice to have these names behind the weapon, not some of our current LEO in uniform pointing a gun at you. Who would you rather have a gun pointed at you, chuck taylor, massaad ayoob, john farnam, clint smith, Col. cooper, Ken Hackathorn, and Lous Auerbach.(sp?) OR some rookie cop who has fired less than 1000 rounds and has a badge? Or an LEO with years who does not practice? Perhaps you should read some of the earlier threads.

My intent was to raise the issue in the response to this newspaper article, Has their been a change in the attitude of the LEO's department porcedure and policy to shoot to kill rather than shoot to stop or wound.

You may or may not be right about the current caliber of LEOs- I don't have enough knowledge to make a comment. But given what appears to me to be an abysmal lack of understanding re: firearms...I do not take your analysis very seriously.

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In the past two years how many rounds have you fired??

I have researched extensively wound ballastics, crime statistics, and as an observer department policy over the years. I am actively involved in 2nd amendment cases both at the national level and at the the local level. I am very familiar with body armor and the effects of gun shot to body armor.

Perhap a reread of the responses would enlighten the width of this discussion.