WE BUY BAG OF SEMTEX FROM TERRORISTS (in Kosovo)

Sunday Mirror ^ | December 7, 2003 | Graham Johnson

[Destro]

Bono--raiser of money for Bosnian Muslims.

[DTA]

>>>>>You're trying to link Albanians with Bin Laden, and in turn, 911? What a sick post.<<<<

NYCR, the only sick thing is support to documented BIN LADEN ALLIES AFTER 911.

Bin Laden has trained KLA Albanians in Afghanistan terror camps and you are fully aware of that fact.

[mark502inf]

Bin Laden has trained KLA Albanians in Afghanistan terror camps

I suppose that is possible, but I have heard of no such instance. In Afghanistan we found Brits, Aussies, Canadians, and Americans as well as "tourists" from all the North African and Arabian shield countries who were with or trained by Al Qaeda, but I am unaware of any Albanians. Is there any primary source evidence you can cite for this claim?

documented BIN LADEN ALLIES AFTER 911.

Well, again, what have the Albanians done to support Bin Laden? We know that in Kosovo after 9-11, former KLA fighters volunteered to fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan, the people offered to give blood and they held candle-light processions in sympathy. In Macedonia, one of the motivations for the leaders of the ethnic Albanian uprising to maintain a cease-fire after the sumer of 01 was a desire not to be perceived as affiliated in any way with the 9-11 event or those involved with it. And of course the country of Albania itself has provided troops to help the USA in Iraq and Afghanistan, has voted to support the USA in international fora, has offered up its territory for bases and overflights, and has provided training areas for U.S. ground, naval, and air forces. Plus with tens of thousands of Americans in the Balkans for years and years, there have been no American casualties caused by Albanians.

So, DTA, how are the Albanians Bin Laden allies?

[DTA]

>>>>So, DTA, how are the Albanians Bin Laden allies?<<<

Do you really believe I made it up? If only. You ain't seen nothing yet. Through "poor innocent Albanians" OBL got access to the ...

Terror camps in Afghanistan were run by OBL. Kosovo Albanians were invited to train in those camps.

Having in mind the risk assessment, OBL would not invite Kosovo ALbanians in his secret camps and spend his own funds to train his enemies.

If this is not a logical enough for you, here is more.

Zavahiri's brother has trained KLA terrorists.

The traces of Kosovo Albanians were found in Afghanistan. Your info has been edited for some reason. One of them even boasted of combat experience against Americans and Serbs and advised of terrror attacks in the U.S. such as Disney parks.

Last but not least, the drugs makes terrorist world go round. Kosovo Albanians are improtant link in turning Afghan poppy crop into Greenbacks.

In the war agaist terror, one is either with us or against us.

What do you think, where Kosovo Albanian terrorists fit into the picture?

Question for you: Any idea why Daniel Pearl was killed?

Serbs have a saying: beware of those who are not aftaid of God and can not be ashamed of their actions in front of the people. Do you know by chance someone fitting this description? I do.

[Boot Hill]

The idiots claim   "Our 13.5kg haul of Semtex...which we bought for £10,000 ..."

Is it that all Englishmen are stupid or is it that only English journalists are this stupid? They paid $17,000 for 30 pounds of Semtex (or more likely, Playdoh)?!? $570 a pound? A 10,000% mark up? Hell, I'm in the wrong business! The guys that sold the stuff to these reporters are probably still ROTFLTAO!

--Boot Hill

[Boot Hill]

In fact, the more I think about it, the story as written is so improbable (that someone would pay $17,000 for 30 pounds of Semtex) that I suspect what actually happened was that the reporters bagged some Playdoh from Toys-R-Us, re-labeled it as Semtex and then pocketed the $17,000 in front money that the newspaper had put up for the buy.

--Boot Hill

[mark502inf]

The traces of Kosovo Albanians were found in Afghanistan. Your info has been edited for some reason. One of them even boasted of combat experience against Americans and Serbs and advised of terrror attacks in the U.S. such as Disney parks.

Your evidence consists of one document allegedly written by an Albanian who boasted of his KLA combat experience against Americans and advocated suicide bombings. Since the KLA did not fight against Americans and since you can count the number of Albanian suicide bombers on no fingers, the document is not very credible. Even if authentic, it represents a very small piece of information amidst an overwhelmingly large body of evidence that indicates exactly the opposite of what you are trying to spin.

[In Bin Laden's book "Jihad Against America"] he lists various militant groups that he says are "helping Afghanistan in its fight against the infidels" around the world. They include the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the Libyan Jihad Fighters, the Abu Sayyaf rebels of the Philippines, and what it calls "jihad militants" from Burma, Bosnia, Chechnya, Indonesia, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Pakistan, Somalia, Tajikistan, Turkey, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.

Note that Bin Laden does not mention the KLA, Kosovo, or Albania.

[mark502inf]

Question for you: Any idea why Daniel Pearl was killed?

From your link it appears you are a subscriber to a conspiro-theory that Pearl was killed in Pakistan because he wrote articles a few years ago saying that Milosevic's massacres and atrocities in Kosovo were not the same as genocide. Yeah, that was it.

[F-117A]

Thanks for the Daniel pearl links! I have much reading to do

[DTA]

>>>>>Note that Bin Laden does not mention the KLA, Kosovo, or Albania<<<<

Any guess why?

[DTA]

>>>>>>From your link it appears you are a subscriber to a conspiro-theory that Pearl was killed in Pakistan because he wrote articles a few years ago saying that Milosevic's massacres and atrocities in Kosovo were not the same as genocide<<<<<

Publishing tall stories about alleged Serbian crimes is a shortcut for Pulitzer. Liars like Gutman, Rohde, and frauds like Samantha Power are the proof.

Daniel Pearl came to Kosovo to make a breakthrough story about alleged Serbian crimes (judged by the tone of his published articles he was no Serb friend). He was searching for the proof of "genocide". Instead of the planned outcome, he realized the magnitude of the official spin.

He became capable to see through the fog of lies that Clinton administration and media were spinning on behalf of Islamist terrorists.

When he came to Pakistan, he knew where to look and see things gullible Western journalists could not see, even when in plain view. Perhaps that's why he was a threat. He paid the price for becoming competent.

The social network diagram of Daniel Pearl's murderers is interesting enough to justify close examination.

For a change, perhaps you could contributing a bit of info here?

[joan]

Is it that all Englishmen are stupid or is it that only English journalists are this stupid? They paid $17,000 for 30 pounds of Semtex (or more likely, Playdoh)?!?

Does playdoh burn with an intense blue flame like they say semtex does? You do not the background on these investigative reporters - if they have degrees in chemistry, experience with semtex, military background, and so on. They are doing a show about semtex airing on British TV next week. I doubt people who aren't more positive about semtex would devote an entire show on the stuff.

$570 a pound? A 10,000% mark up? Hell, I'm in the wrong business! The guys that sold the stuff to these reporters are probably still ROTFLTAO!

If the "strong rumours" are correct, then at least one of the guys can laugh no more, as he was assassinated.

[mark502inf]

>>>>>Note that Bin Laden does not mention the KLA, Kosovo, or Albania<<<< Any guess why?

Maybe here's a reason--from the very first source on the link you provided:

Joint raids in recent years in Tirana by the CIA and Shik, the Albanian secret service, have led to several arrests

Maybe bin Laden does not appreciate Albanian& US cooperation.

That same summer, CIA and Shik units arrested several men who were wanted by Egypt for plotting terrorist acts. The men were extradited to Egypt, tried and executed.

Perhaps bin Laden is upset with the Albanians for arresting his operatives and sending them to be executed.

The spotlight fell on bin Laden in Albania with the arrest in 1998 of a French passport holder, Claude Kader... He confessed to being a member of one of bin Ladens groups and told investigators he had been sent to give weapons to the guerrillas of the Kosovo Liberation Army...The KLA had promised US officials it would not co-operate with fundamentalists. Mr Kader said the KLA had turned him down and that he had returned to Albania, still with his weapons

Maybe the reason bin Laden didn't cite the Albanians in his list of buddies is because KLA guerrillas in the middle of fighting the Serbs were so disdainful of bin laden that they sent his emissary packing and wouldn't even touch the weapons he offered.

DTA, posting a link to a google search is not an argument--it is at best a cop-out and at worst--for you--proves exactly the opposite of your position. Now here's a link with some serious bin laden connections.

[Destro]

Influx of al-Qaeda allies feared in Iraq (From Arabs to Albanians)

Defense officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said the United States is holding several hundred foreign fighters captured in Iraq, the majority of them Syrians. Others include Saudis, Sudanese, Egyptians, Yemenis, Moroccans, and Albanians, according to US government officials and terrorism specialists.

USA Today: Report: Bin Laden linked to Albania"

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