Hydrogen Cars are A Reality: Scientist is a Guest on Coast2Coast Right Now

United Nuclear: Hydrogen Fuel Systems ^ | 12/5/2003 | Bob Lazar

[ex-Texan]

United Nuclear is currently in final testing, and will shortly be producing Hydrogen conversion systems / Hydrogen generators for most fuel injected, Gasoline powered vehicles.

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These new vehicles are very efficient, and in fact are more efficient than any internal combustion engine. The problem is that these new vehicles are years away from production, are very expensive, and converting to using Hydrogen fuel in this manner requires you to buy a new ( and expensive) vehicle. All Hydrogen/Fuel Cell systems currently under development by large manufacturers have you purchase Hydrogen as you would Gasoline.

Our system comes with its own "in-home" Hydrogen generator which allows you to manufacture fuel yourself at near zero cost.

Our Hydrogen conversion is an intermediate approach that simply converts your existing vehicle to burn Hydrogen or Gasoline. The Gasoline fuel system remains intact and is not modified. This allows you to switch between running on Gasoline or Hydrogen at any time. The engine itself is only slightly modified, the conversion makes substantial changes to the computer & electrical system, ignition and cooling systems. Since they never have to be removed, Hydrogen fuel storage (Hydride tanks) can be installed in virtually any available space within the vehicle.

The system consists of two parts, the Hydrogen fuel system in your vehicle, and a Hydrogen generating system that remains in your garage. The Hydrogen generator is either powered by solar panels on the roof of your house, a wind turbine set-up (both of which makes your Hydrogen fuel at virtually no cost) or with standard 110 volt AC power for rapid refueling.

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What's Real?

A lot has been written about converting vehicles to run hydrogen. Unfortunately, a lot of what you'll find on the internet is simply untrue.

ANY claim of fueling a car with water, and having the water converted to Hydrogen quickly enough to power a passenger vehicle is pure B.S. The bottom line is simple physics. It takes electrical energy to break the Hydrogen-Oxygen bond in water and release the free gases... and that takes time. The more energy applied to the water, the faster the gasses will evolve... up to a point.

It is not possible to create sufficient amounts Hydrogen gas from water (on board the vehicle) fast enough to idle the smallest passenger vehicle. If your towing a nuclear reactor behind the car, along with a motor home-sized Hydrogen generator, you might have sufficient power and volume to accomplish the task, but that kind of defeats the purpose behind the conversion.

You can produce your own Hydrogen from electricity using either common "household current" or directly from solar cells so your energy cost is zero. It does however take a substantial amount of time to produce sufficient Hydrogen to fill even a small tank.

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Coast2Coast

[ex-Texan]

From the web site:

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"United Nuclear's 1994 Corvette converted to run on Hydrogen. Driving range is over 700 miles per fill and fuel cost is zero."

[metalboy]

I still like the fart car idea of using methane.

[watchin]

Our system comes with its own "in-home" Hydrogen generator which allows you to manufacture fuel yourself at near zero cost.

Or, better yet, an on-board "hydrogen generator" that runs off the power of the vehicle's engine - a simple perpetual motion machine. It's so obvious, why didn't we think of it before?

</sarcasm>

[Iris7]

Just run the numbers. Easy as pie. Just more "free energy" baloney like 200 mpg carburetors or cow magnets taped to the gas line.

Not to say fuel efficient vehicles are impossible. Done some work on them myself. Move away from emission controls, crash protection, low cost, and high acceleration, toward light weight construction, no air conditioning, weights well under 1000 pounds, 0-60 in over a minute. It's easy. 400 mpg is not hard this way. Gas prices have to be a lot higher before people would buy them, though. $60-$100 per gallon would do it.

[per loin]

Scientist? I thought he was having Bob Lazar as his guest.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

If you drive a vehicle, you produce hydrogen gas every time you start it up.

When the alternator starts charging the battery, the electricity flowing through the liquid electrolyte across the plates results in hydrogen gas being released.

More than one soul to their chagrin has found out the hard way that hydrogen gas is very explosive. When mucking about the battery terminals, they create a short which makes a spark. This results in a big boom, when the hydrogen gas inside the battery explodes it, this in turn results in a life time aversion to messing around with lead acid batteries.

If in doubt as too the above, raise the hood on your car and have a look, somewhere on the battery is a warning about explosive hydrogen gases being present, and something about "life and limb".

[Dosa26]

When mucking about the battery terminals, they create a short which makes a spark. This results in a big boom, when the hydrogen gas inside the battery explodes it

Come on...The battery would have to be cracked to release the gas no? Otherwise we put our lives in danger every time we Jump a dead battery.

[greasepaint]

FReepers should keep in mind that 45 fortyfive
kilowatt-hours of electricity are needed to make
hydrogen-from-water, equal to one gallon of gasoline.
If you pay ten cents per kilowatt-hour
kinda pricey.

[G.Mason]

The hydrogen [auto fuel] concept, like their web page, is "under construction".

Wake me in twenty years.

[Grut]

Coast2Coast is peer-reviewed, right?

[Lazamataz]

I still like the fart car idea of using methane.

Hehhehehh hehhehehehhe hehhehehehhh hehhhehehehehh
Yeah! That would rule! Fart cars! Yeah! Yeah!

[Lazamataz]

If in doubt as too the above, raise the hood on your car and have a look, somewhere on the battery is a warning about explosive hydrogen gases being present, and something about "life and limb".

Mine reads "Please to not concern yourself about explosive hydrogen gas. Is no problem, and Allah is all merciful. -- Afghanistan Battery Corporation"

[Indrid Cold]

Bob Lazar is the same guy who said he was out at Area 51, reverse-engineering UFOs. That claim doesn't seem to hold up under scrutiny.

[KC_for_Freedom]

Come on...The battery would have to be cracked to release the gas no? Otherwise we put our lives in danger every time we Jump a dead battery.

This risk should not be taken lightly, if the battery is damaged, it could well have cracks into the cells and batteries have been known to explode. Here is an example:

I had a dead battery, so I jumped it to get the car started. To charge the battery I drove it at high RPM for thirty minutes, then ate lunch at a restaurant. When I returned, and tried to start the car, there was a "thump" and vapor escapes from all around the hood. Good thing I was not in the act of popping the hood as someone tried to start that car. A new battery fixed everything straight away, and in my case there was not a discharge of acid, something that would likely be expected.

So have a care around batteries, they have a lot of stored energy and energy can cause problems when it gets uncontained.

[Imal]

This is the same Bob Lazar who claimed to have analyzed extraterrestrial propulsion systems at Area 51, and has been ruthlessly suppressed by the Men in Black.

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[ex-Texan]

You are acting like an total jerk. Why don't you grow up?

Just because someone has a Corvette that he has driven on American roads with hydrogen power -- and claims its costs little or nothing to drive -- that somehow makes me a tinfoil nut? And a nut by association a that?

No, sir, you are the nut. And a very closed minded, and somewhat sorry nut you are indeed!

I was just suggesting that people might want to know about an alternative solution to our hopeless and unfortunate addiction to Arab oil.

I do not give a damn about your allegations about this person. I only hope there is some truth in his claims about hydrogen power. He is applying for a patent and seems convinced he will soon have his application approved.

If he gets the patent -- it seems very likely he will become very rich driving a pollution free automobile -- laughing at Arab Muslims all the way to the bank. Then we can all tell them to pound sand up their Kazzoos.

By the way, President Bush came out in favor of hydrogen powered automobiles in his State of Union address. Guess that make him a tin-foiled nut case too?

[TexasCajun]

Our system comes with its own "in-home" Hydrogen generator which allows you to manufacture fuel yourself at near zero cost.

Does this mean we can feed it all our garbage, like the Deloreon in Back to the Future?

[TexasCajun]

PS. Please don't call me a nut too, just because I'm skeptical. And we DO NOT have to be dependent on Arab oil, that is a choice, not a geophysical condition.

[ex-Texan]

Read my # 17 -- the words in bold. 'Nuff said. I'm out of here for today.