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To: Monkey King
>>>>>>>>>Those academics whose rantings give third-rate artists like Robbins the fig leaf they need to cover their posturings are, in my view, much to blame for this debasement.

Critics are easily subsumed. They become dependent on the people they review for their income and then their opinions are being leveraged via that dependency.

It doesn't shock me in the least that people deride and make fun of art because art routinely ridicules them. That's basic human nature. Maybe Tim Robbins needs to spend 5 minutes talking to a decent psychologist. He lacks basic empathy.
5 posted on 12/02/2003 11:47:42 AM PST by .cnI redruM (At the core, beneath a thin veneer of socialization, we are still salacious monkeys.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Get a chill pill people. First of all not all art historians follow any particular ideology. Many of us r like archaeologists who do the spade work and report the findings. Most art historians I know particularly distrust art historians who have an axe or bias to grind, whether Marxist or radical right. What most of us see is that sometimes doing a particular reading can yield meaning. Paintings r not fixed eternal buckets of meaning, cultures shift and so do meanings like the ocean tide on the shoreline. However, two things that r an absolute demand. Evidence. Derrida is not an art historian, he does not mount or marshal evidence; he is an essayist, musing somewhere between different texts: poetry, cookbooks, fictional prose, obssesive compulsive; no one in the art world takes him for an art historian. R the conservatives guilty of half-truths?
The second thing that is absolute in art history is writing and Mr. Kimball's in my class would get a C- at best. He never quotes enough of his opponents to make his case, his use of out of context intellectual words is embarrasing, his sentence fragments torment the brain and his poorly done research (getting Derrida wrong as an art historian!) all add up to debased mediocrity.
7 posted on 12/25/2003 6:50:28 PM PST by nixon pat
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