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To: Pyro7480
They can pay for their own damned contraceptives, nobody's stopping them. Men have to pay for condoms.

I really want the Catholic Church to stand firm on this. If they respond by promising to shut down every hospital and every charity office rather than submit to this, I may convert.

3 posted on 11/29/2003 12:09:47 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Amen! No one is going to stop these women from buying contraceptives, the benefit just won't be subsidized by the Catholic church. Personally, I don't see the big deal except for those who want to attack the church.

Also, what is this thing about 12-15 pregnancies being the alternative to contraception?? I could go on and on about how ridiculous a statement this is.

5 posted on 11/29/2003 12:44:51 PM PST by sojourner
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To: hellinahandcart; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; ...
I really want the Catholic Church to stand firm on this. If they respond by promising to shut down every hospital and every charity office rather than submit to this, I may convert.

The OFFICIAL position of the Catholic Church is very clear, and incontrovertible. Anticipating the future direction of contraceptives, Pope Paul VI noted:

"Let it be considered also that a dangerous weapon would thus be placed in the hands of those public authorities who take no heed of moral exigencies. Who could blame a government for applying to the solution of the problems of the community those means acknowledged to be licit for married couples in the solution of a family problem? Who will stop rulers from favoring, from even imposing upon their peoples, if they were to consider it necessary, the method of contraception which they judge to be more efficacious? In such a way men, wishing to avoid individual, family, or social difficulties encountered in the observance of the divine law, would reach the point of placing at the mercy of the intervention of public authorities the most personal and most reserved sector of conjugal intimacy. "

REFERENCE:

Humanae Vitae

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


9 posted on 11/29/2003 2:25:40 PM PST by NYer (Prayer is strength for the weak.)
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To: hellinahandcart
good advice. We have to find a way to take power away from these judges and courts. Yours is a very reasonable start.
11 posted on 11/29/2003 2:59:27 PM PST by genghis
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