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To: archy
And meanwhile, during the month of November, more American troops were killed than in any of the previous months since President Bush declared the direct hostilities concluded, and we entered this occupation/ counterinsurgency phase of the campaign.

I guess your point is we should just give up now since we lost 78 in November? No really Arch, what are you getting at? I guess that we shouldn't have even bothered to fight back against the ambush yesterday, after all because of this LTC West thing our 4th ID guys' morale is obvoiously broken. I posted the info about the ambush because whiners like you said that the morale of 4th ID would be crushed. Well for a crushed morale those guys kicked the livin crap out of the Fedayeen Saddam!

After all, they have Americans like you making sure that other officers won't be taking effective measures against them, and otherwise giving them aid and comfort.

I had almost forgotten why I offered before to give you a short class on the differences between officer and enlisted. Keep talking trash, you whiner!

16 posted on 12/01/2003 6:06:03 AM PST by Ispy4u
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To: Ispy4u
I guess your point is we should just give up now since we lost 78 in November?

Not at all. This could be the point at which we begin to take a real agressive stance, instead of just shooting back when fired upon. Of course if it's made clear that such aggressiveness will buy the officer commanding a set of charges and specifications, they'll back off, and sometime early next year, we'll note a hundred more Americans killed in a month to come.

No really Arch, what are you getting at? I guess that we shouldn't have even bothered to fight back against the ambush yesterday, after all because of this LTC West thing our 4th ID guys' morale is obvoiously broken.

I'm less concerned for the 4th ID than I am for reservists arriving in-country, and more of whom will be taking over in the next six months, at least. And in particular, for their junior officers, from many of whom I've heard sad and disturbing thoughts, if understandable ones.

I posted the info about the ambush because whiners like you said that the morale of 4th ID would be crushed. Well for a crushed morale those guys kicked the livin crap out of the Fedayeen Saddam!

When I'm called a whiner by someone hiding behind his desk in Maryland, I'm not particularly impressed. Tell us about the ambushes you've pulled off, not those of otyhers. BTW, it was 54 enemy hostile KIA. Or were you reading the press accounts instead of the 4th ID AAR?

After all, they have Americans like you making sure that other officers won't be taking effective measures against them, and otherwise giving them aid and comfort.

I had almost forgotten why I offered before to give you a short class on the differences between officer and enlisted. Keep talking trash, you whiner!

I don't need lessons on that, having spent my first tour, 1966-1970, as an enlisted man, initially as an eleven-echo tank crewman. But I particularly don't need lessons from a chairwarmer who couldn't hack it in a line unit in a combat arms MOS.

-archy-/-

22 posted on 12/01/2003 7:35:56 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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