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To: TrebleRebel
I think you'll find the contents of this article are what the FBI didn't want us to know - presumably because they feared some bushy-chinned terrorist could whip up a batch in the boondocks.

Why didn't Patrick and Alibek recognize what they saw ?
Possibly it was light years beyond what they had worked on !
Yesterday's research has a way of becoming "old hat" fast.

Just for the hell of it, let's rule out Russia,Iraq,Algeria,Syria,and Iran.
(Again, this is just for argument's sake !)

That would leave us: Pakistan,India,China, and N. Korea.
Let me do a bit of research and get back to this...
17 posted on 11/27/2003 1:34:26 PM PST by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: genefromjersey
Why didn't Patrick and Alibek recognize what they saw ?

Good point. Maybe they were too trusting, wanting to be part of the public discussion, and took a few steps beyond their knowledge, perhaps with some nudging by others with an agenda or prejudice.

18 posted on 11/27/2003 1:40:49 PM PST by Shermy
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To: genefromjersey
That would leave us: Pakistan,India,China, and N. Korea.

When Ayman Zawahiri was busted a few years back by the Russians, evidence was found on him that he maintained a bank account in Guangdong.

31 posted on 11/27/2003 3:23:20 PM PST by per loin
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To: genefromjersey
I checked my handy dandy (so-so) reference guide:

http://www.GlobalSecurity.org

and winnowed through the countries reported to possess bioweapons (Click on "special weapons"; then click on "country list").

North Korea, Pakistan, India,Egypt, and China come to the forefront. China is believed to have " advanced biotechnology infrastructure " and is confirmed to have ignored the Bioweapons Convention of 1987,to which it was a signatory party,and exported special weapons to at least one country: Iran-(which has capabilities of its own.)

Iran,could very well be added to the list of states willing to go the extra mile to terrorize us.

India should also be taken into consideration,oddly enough, as they have "substantial potential for bioweapons production for offensive purposes".Among the nice stuff they have studied for this purpose are:

Anthrax,brucellosis,cholera,bubonic plague,smallpox,viral hemorrhagic fever,and botulism.

There have been disease outbreaks in remote parts of India that are reminiscent of cold-blooded bioweapon testing on some of their "minority" ( Non-Hindu ) population.

Although they do a lot of business with us,they have never been overly fond of us, and are most certainly sophisticated enough to mount a "false flag" bio-attack; especially if they were able to convince us their sworn enemy,Pakistan was behind it.
33 posted on 11/27/2003 3:53:45 PM PST by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: genefromjersey
>>>>That would leave us: Pakistan,India,China, and N. Korea.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2000_hr/00-05-23alibek.htm

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The first involves experienced scientists traveling or moving abroad. For example, there have been unconfirmed reports that scientists from the Kirov facility visited North Korea in the early 1990s. In addition, numerous scientists who used to work for the Soviet biological weapons program are now living abroad. Many of these scientists live in the West, but others have gone to Iran and other countries where their expertise can be put to nefarious use in state-run biological weapons programs.

A second type of proliferation involves scientists from other countries being brought to the proliferating country for training in biotechnology, microbiology, and genetic engineering techniques. For years Moscow State University provided such training to scientists from dozens of countries, including Cuba, North Korea, Eastern Bloc nations, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Libya.

A third form of proliferation involves private companies selling scientific expertise. For instance, I have a flier from a company that advertises recombinant Francisella tularensis bacteria with altered virulence genes. Ostensibly, these organisms are being offered for vaccine production; the flier also notes that they can be used as genetic recipients and to create recombinant microorganisms of biologically active agents. The authors of the flier also express willingness to form cooperative ventures to which they will contribute their genetic engineering knowledge. The director of this company used to work for the USSR’s biological weapons program.

A fourth type of proliferation occurs when the proliferating country sells equipment that can be used in biological weapons production. Such equipment is generally termed “dual-use”, as it can be used for legitimate biotechnology production and for biological weapons production. An example of such proliferation is the planned sale by Russia of large fermenters to Iraq after the Persian Gulf War. Fortunately, the sale was not completed. I have no doubt that these fermenters were destined for use in biological weapons production. First of all, Iraq has used the guise of single-cell protein production as a cover for biological weapons facilities in the past. Second, the particular fermenter size involved in this proposed sale would not be suitable for efficient single-cell protein production. In fact, the resultant product would be prohibitively expensive. Similarly, in 1990, Biopreparat was negotiating the sale of dual-use equipment to Cuba as well.

The fifth kind of proliferation consists of published scientific literature. Just by reading scientific literature published in Russia in the last few years, a biological weapons developer could learn techniques to genetically engineer vaccinia virus and then transfer the results to smallpox; to create antibiotic-resistant strains of anthrax, plague, and glanders; and to mass-produce the Marburg and Machupo viruses. Billions of dollars that the Soviet Union and Russia put into biotechnology research are available to anyone for the cost of a translator.

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42 posted on 11/27/2003 8:14:53 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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