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Steroids in baseball: Automatic testing next year
Yahoo Sports ^ | 11/13/03 | Ronald Blum - AP

Posted on 11/13/2003 8:25:38 PM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK (AP) -- The test results are in, and they confirmed what many in baseball suspected: Some players were taking more than vitamins.

Now, Major League Baseball will begin penalizing players for steroid use after learning that more than 5 percent of this year's tests came back positive.

Rumors regarding steroids had run high recently as bulked-up sluggers set all sorts of home run records.

Stars such as Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa denied taking the drugs. But former MVPs Jose Canseco and Ken Caminiti admitted they had done it before their careers ended.

``Hopefully, this will, over time, allow us to completely eradicate the use of performance enhancement substances in baseball,'' commissioner Bud Selig said Thursday.

MLB said of 1,438 anonymous tests this season, between 5 and 7 percent were positive.

``There's a slight disagreement to where in that spectrum the exact number falls,'' said Gene Orza, the No. 2 official of the players' association. ``It's a technical disagreement to the interpretation of the results.''

Under baseball's labor contract that took effect on Sept. 30, 2002, testing with penalties begins after any season in which more than 5 percent of survey tests are positive. And from now on, players who test positive will be identified to the commissioner's office and the union.

Starting next year, a first positive test for steroid use would result in treatment and a second in a 15-day suspension or fine of up to $10,000.

The length of penalties would increase to a 25-day suspension or fine of up to $25,000 for a third positive test, a 50-day suspension or fine of up to $50,000 for a fourth and a one-year suspension or fine of up to $100,000 for a fifth. The suspensions would be without pay.

New York Mets reliever Mike Stanton didn't think steroid use had been that widespread.

``It does surprise me a little bit,'' he said. ``But the tests don't lie.''

The newly discovered steroid THG was not tested for, and baseball cannot retest because the samples weren't saved. But it already has been added to the banned list for next year.

The NFL, NBA and NCAA test for banned steroids and other prohibited substances, but the NHL does not. For substances other than steroids, baseball tests a player only if doctors agree there is cause.

``A positive rate of 5 percent is hardly the sign that you have rampant use of anything,'' said Rob Manfred, baseball's executive vice president for labor relations. ``From our perspective, it's still a problem. We'd like to be at zero.''

Baseball has been testing players with minor league contracts for drugs since 2001 and in September announced that testing would expand to Latin American prospects next year.

``As a pitcher, I think it would be nice if they did get everybody who is on steroids and did get them off it,'' Oakland's Tim Hudson said.

Testing with penalties will continue until positive tests drop below 2.5 percent in consecutive years.

``I had no expectation one way or the other,'' Orza said. ``I did know the claims that put the pressure on the players to address this problem the way they did were wildly inflated.''

Said Minnesota outfielder Dustan Mohr: ``I'm kind of surprised it's not higher.''

``I think it's less than what people might think, but when you see a guy who puts on 20 pounds of solid muscle, it kind of raises your eyebrows,'' he said.

Some players, notably on the Chicago White Sox, had called for even more stringent testing.

``I guess if people want it bad enough they find their way around the system,'' Oakland pitcher Ted Lilly said. ``There's still other supplements and aids out there that aren't exactly steroids. If there's anything out there that can help, I'd imagine players would find it.''

Updated on Thursday, Nov 13, 2003 10:53 pm EST


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automatic; baseball; nextyear; steroids; testing
Major League Baseball commissioner Bud Selig listens to a question from a reporter during a news conference in San Juan, Puerto Rico, Wednesday, Sept. 10, 2003. Selig said the future of the Montreal Expos is still uncertain and assured that the relocation committee has not ruled out any option for 2004. (AP Photo/Andres Leighton)
Thu Nov 13,10:24 PM ET

Major League Baseball commissioner Bud Selig listens to a question from a reporter during a news conference in San Juan, Puerto Rico, Wednesday, Sept. 10, 2003. Selig said the future of the Montreal Expos is still uncertain and assured that the relocation committee has not ruled out any option for 2004. (AP Photo/Andres Leighton)

1 posted on 11/13/2003 8:25:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Well, now it will be another hundred years before the Sox and Cubs get another chance. Dang!
2 posted on 11/13/2003 8:33:43 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Better baseball brought to you by better chemistry.
3 posted on 11/13/2003 8:50:21 PM PST by TYVets ("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlien & me)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
LOL.. (sorry.. tee hee)
4 posted on 11/13/2003 8:50:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .....)
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To: TYVets
Well folks, say goodbye to the 60-homerun+ hitters....now Bonds won't break Aaron's record...if he is forced to "clean up" he will start feeling his age and taper off somewhere around 700 ....

Much as I was delighted by the "return" of the epochal hitters (sorely missed since the 1920s-30s Golden Age of Base Ball), I was under no illusion that Messers Sosa, McGwire and Bonds rose to new heights "naturally"...
5 posted on 11/13/2003 8:54:15 PM PST by Al Simmons
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To: NormsRevenge
As technology improves, the line between healthy training and doping will not be easy to distinguish.
6 posted on 11/13/2003 8:57:35 PM PST by sigSEGV
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To: sourcery
socionomics ping
7 posted on 11/13/2003 9:21:28 PM PST by Tauzero (Avoid loose hair styles. When government offices burn, long hair sometimes catches on fire.)
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Baseball commissioner Bud Selig is shown in this Feb. 6, 2003 photo. Starting next year, steroid users in baseball will be subject to suspensions or fines. 'Hopefully, this will, over time, allow us to completely eradicate the use of performance enhancement substances in baseball,' Selig said.  (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)
Fri Nov 14, 8:48 AM ET

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig is shown in this Feb. 6, 2003 photo. Starting next year, steroid users in baseball will be subject to suspensions or fines. 'Hopefully, this will, over time, allow us to completely eradicate the use of performance enhancement substances in baseball,' Selig said. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)

8 posted on 11/14/2003 7:25:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .....)
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To: Al Simmons; F16Fighter
Well folks, say goodbye to the 60-homerun+ hitters....now Bonds won't break Aaron's record...if he is forced to "clean up" he will start feeling his age and taper off somewhere around 700 ....

Let's hope so; I can't stand the SOB. ....one of the worst guys in all pro sports, and the ultimate 'roid-head. A few months ago he even said that his career #'s should make people forget about Babe Ruth real fast. ....But let's take a closer look at some of those lifetime #'s:

Batting Ave -- Ruth: .342, Bonds: .297
On base % -- Ruth: .474, Bonds, .433
Slugging % -- Ruth: .690, Bonds: .602
HR's (per 162 games) -- Ruth: 46, Bonds: 41
RBI's (per 162 games) -- Ruth 143, Bonds: 110

....and that's just for starters.

And, of course, Ruth's diet didn't contain the same "nutritional" benefits as Bonds'. ....unless it's discovered one day that hot dogs and beer gives one an unfair performance advantage.

9 posted on 11/14/2003 1:42:35 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: NormsRevenge
Just look at that photo .....what a goofball.

Little wonder that no one takes him seriously.

10 posted on 11/14/2003 1:47:25 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
"One of the worst guys in all pro sports, and the ultimate 'roid-head. A few months ago he even said that his career #'s should make people forget about Babe Ruth real fast. ....But let's take a closer look at some of those lifetime #'s..."

Barry Bonds is a creep. I too recall his moronic ridiculing of the legacy of Ruth, and his delusion that the name "Barry Bonds" won't soon be associated mostly with designer stealth-steroids, a Darth Vader-sized cranium, big stupid mouth, and NO Championship Ring.

"And, of course, Ruth's diet didn't contain the same 'nutritional' benefits as Bonds'. ....unless it's discovered one day that hot dogs and beer gives one an unfair performance advantage."

Heh -- could have. Based on the "vitamins" David Wells uses...

11 posted on 11/14/2003 3:09:12 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Al Simmons
"Well folks, say goodbye to the 60-homerun+ hitters....now Bonds won't break Aaron's record...if he is forced to "clean up" he will start feeling his age and taper off somewhere around 700 ...."

Yes, but after the impending muscle-shrinkage will Bonds begin to take on the physical form of a Charms Blowpop? I don't see how his 30" circumference cranial skill would shrink after ending his ten-year steroid binge.

12 posted on 11/14/2003 3:15:06 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Mr. Mojo
Exactly so; and that's not even taking into account The Babe's PITCHING PROWESS.
13 posted on 11/15/2003 1:16:27 AM PST by Al Simmons
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To: Al Simmons
Not long ago, I was watching the famous Yankees-Dodgers Game 6 of the '77 series on ESPN Classic. That was the night Reggie Jackson swatted the 3 homers. I noticed something. Reggie, a former college football player, was a big guy, considerably bigger than his contemporaries in baseball. However, compared to McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds he looks like a 98 pound weakling. No doubt in my mind these home run hitters today are juiced. Hard for a native Southerner to say this about a Yankee, but those guys couldn't hold Reggie's jock.
14 posted on 11/25/2003 5:28:48 AM PST by TexanAmerican
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