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Robert Fisk: Frightening winds swirl around the House of Saud(America is plotting!)
nzherald ^ | 11/11/03 | Robert Fisk

Posted on 11/10/2003 9:22:37 AM PST by Pikamax

Robert Fisk: Frightening winds swirl around the House of Saud

11.11.2003 COMMENT Osama bin Laden has an awful lot of friends in Saudi Arabia. In the mosque, among the disenchanted youth, among the security forces, even - and this is what the West declines to discuss - within the royal family.

Saudi ambassadors routinely dismiss these facts as "unfounded", but Sunday's attack in the capital, Riyadh, is part of a growing insurrection against Bin Laden's enemies in the House of Saud.

Whether or not the bombers were Saudi security force members - they were certainly wearing Saudi military uniforms - the Riyadh Government's own "war on terror" is now provoking bombings, gun battles and killings almost every day in the kingdom.

The enemies of the House of Saud want to make the kingdom ungovernable - just as America's enemies in Iraq want to make its occupation ineffective. Iraqis are still the principal victims of the bombings in Baghdad, just as Saudis were the principal victims on Sunday.

Clearly, after years of procrastination, the Saudi authorities are passing on some of their own intelligence to the US. For once, the latest warning from Washington - that al Qaeda's next attack was moving from the "theoretical" to the "operational" stage was spot on the mark.

But the Saudi royal family - that part still desperate for US assistance - provided plenty of reasons during the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq for their Arab enemies to attack them.

For although they publicly said the US would not use Saudi military facilities during the war, they allowed the Americans to direct 2700 air sorties a day from the Prince Sultan Air Base - far more damagingly, they gave secret permission for 200 US aircraft at the base to fly 700 combat missions over Iraq daily.

The Jordanians suspect the bombing of their embassy in Baghdad was retaliation for a secret military operation in which 26 US F/A-18 fighter bombers flew missions from a Jordanian air base to bomb Iraqi air force facilities possibly able to fire missiles at Israel.

So, Crown Prince Abdullah, the effective ruler of Saudi Arabia, must be feeling some frightening winds blowing across the Saudi desert. For Bin Laden's aim to destroy the royal family is shared by the American right wing.

When Laurent Murawiec, friend of the then US defence policy board chairman Richard Perle, gave his odd but damning assessment of Saudi Arabia as an enemy of the US and the "Kernel of Evil", he might have been Bin Laden spokesman.

Murawiec, who works with the Rand corporation and has been an executive editor of Executive Intelligence Revue presented a slide show to the Pentagon last year with titles that included "taking 'Saudi' out of Arabia".

He claimed that since 1745, 58 per cent of all Saudi rulers had met a violent demise, that other Arabs consider Saudis "lazy, overbearing, dishonest, corrupt" and that they are "active at every level of the terror chain, from planners to financiers, from cadre to foot-soldier, from ideologist to cheer leader."

A suspicion persists in Washington that the Saudi royal family is still trying to compromise with the country's religious hierarchy and its al Qaeda enemies. And Bin Laden's messages are still laced with venom for the House of Saud. Indeed, his original aim is to do what Murawiec demanded: to take the "Saudi" out of Arabia.

Could the Americans sit back and watch al Qaeda take over the nation's oil wells? There are those in the House of Saud who fear that now the US is in Iraq, it can - in the event of a revolution - just seize the oil fields in northern Saudi Arabia, leaving Riyadh and other cities to whichever Arabian ruler takes control.

- INDEPENDENT


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fisk; turass
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1 posted on 11/10/2003 9:22:38 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
Arabs consider Saudis "lazy, overbearing, dishonest, corrupt"

Pot? Kettle? Black?
2 posted on 11/10/2003 9:27:41 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: Pikamax
AS with Ann Coulter you need the photo. -Tom


3 posted on 11/10/2003 9:36:58 AM PST by Capt. Tom (anything done in moderation shows a lack of interest -Capt. Tom circ %T}#F648)
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To: Pikamax
Frightening winds swirl around the House of Saud

Have the Sauds considered using Beano?

4 posted on 11/10/2003 9:38:46 AM PST by RichInOC (...somebody had to say it...why not me?)
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To: Capt. Tom

5 posted on 11/10/2003 9:45:02 AM PST by Capt. Tom (anything done in moderation shows a lack of interest -Capt. Tom circ %T}#F648)
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To: Capt. Tom
Is it that pathetic photo of the twerp who cut himself shaving?
6 posted on 11/10/2003 9:46:21 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Capt. Tom
Is it that pathetic photo of the twerp who cut himself shaving?

Yeah, that's the one.

7 posted on 11/10/2003 9:47:22 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Pikamax
If nothing else, the Saudis current troubles demonstrate the futility of buying off, co-existing with, or in any fashion accomodating terrorists. For years the House of Saud has ponied up money for Wahabbi Mosques, schools, "charities", etc. all of which contributed in their own way to international terror. Much good did it do them.

As to the "fear" we might move from Iraq to seize the northern oil fields if the the Royal family should fall, sounds good to me. Not singing the praises of the current "government", to use that term loosely, but it could be worse.
8 posted on 11/10/2003 9:56:39 AM PST by barkeep
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To: Arkie2; sultan88
.. Arabs consider Saudis "lazy, overbearing, dishonest, corrupt" and that they are "active at every level of the terror chain, from planners to financiers, from cadre to foot-soldier, from ideologist to cheer leader."

At Last, something we CAN agree on!!!!

9 posted on 11/10/2003 9:58:05 AM PST by flicker
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To: Capt. Tom
Fisk bump. Love that picture.
10 posted on 11/10/2003 10:04:55 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Pikamax
There are people claiming to be Americans over at DU (where traitors gather to stoke their hatred and relish American casualties) claiming the United States is the culprit in the Saudi bombings as well as 9/11 and that al Queda is an invention of the right wing.

Sad but true.
11 posted on 11/10/2003 10:16:09 AM PST by witnesstothefall
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To: Pikamax
Good heavens - an article from Frisk not dripping venom for a change. I may have to pinch myself.

In fact, although the American influence on Saudi Arabia has been huge since the 1940s, the original sphere of influence under which the country took shape in the 1920s was British. The Wahhabis were instrumental in effecting control of that area and placing it in the hands of the family of King Saud. This may be an attempt to wrest that control back, or at least to place it in the hands of royal family members more congenial to the fundamentalists. It does not necessarily constitute a return to a fundamentalist theocracy, however.

Nor is any U.S. activity to seize any oil wells a likely result. We dealt, after all, with a bitterly hostile government in Iran just fine. The mullahs can sell oil or starve, and I really don't much care which.

12 posted on 11/10/2003 10:21:06 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Fisk --

Not this colossal PR#CK again!
13 posted on 11/10/2003 4:05:19 PM PST by Levante
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To: Billthedrill
Fisk --

Not this colossal PR#CK again!
14 posted on 11/10/2003 4:05:19 PM PST by Levante
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To: Billthedrill
Fisk --

Not this colossal PR#CK again!
15 posted on 11/10/2003 4:05:26 PM PST by Levante
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To: Pikamax
Robert Fisk: Frightening winds swirl around the House of Saud

House of Saud = House of Cards
and I feel the wind starting to pick up.

16 posted on 11/10/2003 4:08:04 PM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: witnesstothefall
Get out the tinfoil hats, please.
17 posted on 11/10/2003 4:08:32 PM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Pikamax
they were certainly wearing Saudi military uniforms

Is the Interior Ministry military?

18 posted on 11/10/2003 4:09:55 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: barkeep
nothing else, the Saudis current troubles demonstrate the futility of buying off, co-existing with, or in any fashion accomodating terrorists. For years the House of Saud has ponied up money for Wahabbi Mosques, schools, "charities", etc. all of which contributed in their own way to international terror. Much good did it do them.

Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas...or much worse...
19 posted on 11/10/2003 4:16:59 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Pikamax
I think the real sign of a mature writer is admitting when you are wrong. Mark Steyn does this on the rare occasions he makes mistakes, but has Fisk EVER said he was wrong? Like when he was denying Baghdad Bob style that no Americans had reached the Saddam airport? Most Lefties never admit any mistakes.
20 posted on 11/12/2003 1:11:33 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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