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Moscow considers kissing ban
BBC ^ | Nov 8, 2003

Posted on 11/08/2003 9:14:33 AM PST by Akira

Moscovites caught kissing in public places could be fined if city authorities pass a new law currently under consideration, according to a Russian newspaper. The kissing ban could even extend to lawfully wedded spouses, Stolichnaya Vechernyaya Gazeta reported.

Quoting unnamed sources, it said the plan was aimed at raising levels of public morality in the Russian capital.

The newspaper added that "particularly blatant cases could even lead to a spell of temporary detention in jail".

It said that if approved the new regulations would be introduced earlier next year.

The newspaper quoted a city education official, Tatyana Maskimova, as saying that travellers in the Moscow underground were in particular indulging in lax behaviour.

"Our children are getting love lessons all day long from what they see around them," Ms Maksimova said.

Human rights campaigner and a leading member of Russia's Democratic Union party, Valeriya Novodvorskaya said she would defy the ban if the new bill is introduced.

"Introducing a ban on kissing is really taking things to the Orwellian level of an anti-sexual league and capital punishment for the offence," Ms Novodvorskaya told Echo Moskvy radio station.

"However, if this is not a joke and the mayor's office is indeed drafting such a resolution, I will from now on spend my days kissing in public places - simply out of principle.

"The moment I see a nice person I know, I will immediately kiss them - even if I don't feel like it. I invite all other Moscovites to do the same," Ms Novodvorskaya added.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: moscow; russia
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...particularly blatant cases could even lead to a spell of temporary detention in jail...

Blatant kisses, as opposed to...?
1 posted on 11/08/2003 9:14:34 AM PST by Akira
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To: Akira
Wait til Bloomberg hears of this new use of power !
2 posted on 11/08/2003 9:16:05 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: Akira
Next they'll outlaw vidka.
3 posted on 11/08/2003 9:16:25 AM PST by martin_fierro (_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
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To: martin_fierro
Vidka, vodka, whatever. <|:)~
4 posted on 11/08/2003 9:16:46 AM PST by martin_fierro (_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
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To: martin_fierro
"Vidka, vodka, whatever. <|:)~"

Did you have a few screwdrivers to start your day?, hahahaha
5 posted on 11/08/2003 9:23:29 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Akira
the Orwellian level of an anti-sexual league and capital punishment for the offence

I dunno. Maybe Orwellian. But Huxleylike totalitarianism seemed to endorse lascivious behavior. I think this is technicaly more "Puritanical" than "Orwellian."

6 posted on 11/08/2003 9:26:44 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Akira
I must have been asleep. When did the Chechnyan "rebels" win their struggle and take over Moscow?
7 posted on 11/08/2003 9:28:38 AM PST by bluefish
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To: Akira
the plan was aimed at raising levels of public morality

Oh no, not public morality, only immorality will do.

8 posted on 11/08/2003 9:35:43 AM PST by sd-joe
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To: Akira
They could have used this ban at my high school!!!
9 posted on 11/08/2003 9:40:20 AM PST by EsclavoDeCristo (So you say you're a Catholic, well LIVE IT!)
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To: All
I wonder how they feel about this?

Or this?


10 posted on 11/08/2003 9:46:15 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Akira
Tatyana Maskimova = MY VITA: A SATAN AMOK
11 posted on 11/08/2003 9:50:54 AM PST by aruanan
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To: sam_paine
I dunno. Maybe Orwellian. But Huxleylike totalitarianism seemed to endorse lascivious behavior. I think this is technicaly more "Puritanical" than "Orwellian."

Brave New World indeed!

12 posted on 11/08/2003 10:07:09 AM PST by StatesEnemy
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To: StatesEnemy
Kissing to become in Russia?

Then only 1920 movies will be shown when kissing was implied but not displayed in love scenes:

13 posted on 11/08/2003 12:21:52 PM PST by george wythe
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To: sam_paine
sam_paine said: I dunno. Maybe Orwellian. But Huxleylike totalitarianism seemed to endorse lascivious behavior. I think this is technicaly more "Puritanical" than "Orwellian."

Another aspect of "Orwellian" control is that the control is arbitrary. One day the nation is aligned with "Oceania" and the next day opposed. The people were expected to adapt to the changed allegiances and controls without question. The state which can prohibit kissing in public can also mandate it. That which is not prohibited becomes required.

I believe it is in Missouri that the state constitution enumerates the right to keep and bear arms but which contains a clause that such right "shall not justify the carrying of concealed weapons". A judge has ruled that this clause prohibits carrying of concealed weapons. The "thinking" (if it can be called that) is that whatever is not a protected right must therefor be prohibited even with legislative approval.

14 posted on 11/08/2003 12:23:20 PM PST by William Tell
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From 1984 by George Orwell:
The aim of the Party was not merely to prevent men and women from forming loyalties which it might not be able to control. Its real, undeclared purpose was to remove all pleasure from the sexual act. Not love so much as eroticism was the enemy, inside marriage as well as outside it. All marriages between Party members had to be approved by a committee appointed for the purpose, and -- though the principle was never clearly stated -- permission was always refused if the couple concerned gave the impression of being physically attracted to one another. The only recognized purpose of marriage was to beget children for the service of the Party.

Sexual intercourse was to be looked on as a slightly disgusting minor operation, like having an enema. This again was never put into plain words, but in an indirect way it was rubbed into every Party member from childhood onwards. There were even organizations such as the Junior Anti-Sex League, which advocated complete celibacy for both sexes. All children were to be begotten by artificial insemination (artsem, it was called in Newspeak) and brought up in public institutions. This, Winston was aware, was not meant altogether seriously, but somehow it fitted in with the general ideology of the Party. The Party was trying to kill the sex instinct, or, if it could not be killed, then to distort it and dirty it. He did not know why this was so, but it seemed natural that it should be so. And as far as the women were concerned, the Party's efforts were largely successful.


15 posted on 11/08/2003 12:32:02 PM PST by george wythe
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To: belmont_mark; RusIvan; RussianConservative
PING!

Russia is so free and so democratic ... Just look at Putin and his flat tax ... nevermind that Russians would even consider throwing you in jail until you pay a 10-17$ fine for kissing in public ...
16 posted on 11/10/2003 3:59:54 PM PST by Orion78 (Who died and made you thread monitor?)
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To: Orion78
Orion but it is stupid hoax. Never no major of no city will pass such of legislature. He just kill himself politically. Anyone russian will make joke of him for many years to come.
They will call him a gay, a lame head or just old virgin. All these are strong dirides so they destroy man's reputation so no one will vote for him including womaen. No russian woman wil vote for the old virgin or gay. No way.
17 posted on 11/10/2003 6:52:22 PM PST by RusIvan
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To: Orion78
To bad, better hurry to Moscow and inform all teenagers in Victory Park to stop kissing.
18 posted on 11/10/2003 9:24:43 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Orion78
Oh and paranoid, first this just legistlature and not ban and I really surprised if it ever pass...also, consider that in many US county also ban on public display of affection, on breast feeding babies and of even having alcohol or dare drink on own property and piss off fundimentalist neighbors...go cry me river.
19 posted on 11/10/2003 9:27:12 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Akira
Moscovites caught kissing in public places could be fined...

What about if they're kissed in their private places?

20 posted on 11/10/2003 9:27:17 PM PST by Consort
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