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Iraq Documents May Speak Volumes (CBS+AP on Iraqi intelligence document trove)
CBS w/ AP contributions ^ | 4 November 2003

Posted on 11/05/2003 2:37:25 PM PST by Stultis

Iraq Documents May Speak Volumes
WASHINGTON, Nov. 4, 2003


U.S. analysts are poring over a massive stash of Iraqi intelligence files that hint at war crimes, terrorist attacks, a network of paid foreign agents and efforts to develop illegal missiles with foreign help, according to published reports.

Officials are comparing the huge trove of documents to the "Stasi files" on East Germany's secret police. CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin reports the files, which were captured in April, are only now being fully translated and analyzed.

The files may be used as evidence in war crimes tribunals against the ousted Saddam regime.

There is still no evidence, however, that Iraq possessed the stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons or active biological, chemical or nuclear programs that the Bush administration alleged before the war.

The Wall Street Journal reports the files have sparked an FBI investigation of possible criminal or espionage activity within the United States.

There were already indications of possible connections between Saddam's regime and persons or entities located in the United States.

When Iraq issued its weapons declaration last December, a number of published reports said Iraq listed U.S. companies among those who had provided some material to the regime, although it was not clear whether that material was proscribed, or if the Iraqi assertion was true.

More recently, a suburban Chicago man was arrested in July on charges of serving as an unregistered agent of Saddam's government, including spying on opposition leaders for Iraqi intelligence, federal officials said.

Khaled Abdel-Latif Dumeisi, 60, was arrested based on a dossier found in Baghdad in April and turned over to the FBI.

An official says the documents detail an elaborate network of foreigners who were paid by Iraq — not to spy, but to push for pro-Saddam policies, The Washington Post reports. Sources told the Post the agents included high-ranking officials working in Arab countries and other regions.

According to the Journal, the files may also help flesh out the extent of Saddam's weapons ambitions.

An official says the documents and evidence from U.S. interrogations suggest Iraq received technical assistance from two teams of Yugoslav missile experts and another foreign country that sources would not name.

The help, provided from 2001 to as late as this year, was allegedly aimed at extending the range of Iraq's missile, which was restricted under Security Council resolutions.

The documents also point to negotiations with North Korea to buy long-range missiles, the official says. Iraq made a $10 million down payment in 2002 but Pyongyang said it could not deliver the weapons, according to the Journal.

The Journal, quoting the same official, says evidence indicates Iraq was behind small-scale terrorist attacks against U.S. targets, including one in Asia in 1993 in which no one was injured.

Meanwhile, International Atomic Energy Agency head Mohammed ElBaradei is asking the United States to turn over a classified version of Iraq Survey Group leader David Kay.

Kay told Congress earlier this month that he had seen evidence that Iraq violated Security Council resolutions, hid material from inspectors, planned to build missiles to fly beyond range limits and possessed the capacity to quickly resume biological weapons production.

However, Kay reported no solid evidence of actual biological, chemical or nuclear weapons or active programs to develop them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackfiles; intelligence; iraq; iraqiintelligence; mukhabarat; postwariraq
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1 posted on 11/05/2003 2:37:25 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Stultis
Yea, but Maxine and Barbara and Jay are going to want to know if we had a legal search warrant before that evidence can be used.
2 posted on 11/05/2003 2:39:54 PM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Stultis
"There were already indications of possible connections between Saddam's regime and persons or entities located in the United States. "

I can A.N.S.W.E.R. that question, in part....

3 posted on 11/05/2003 2:44:32 PM PST by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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To: Stultis; sheltonmac; JohnGalt; Burkeman1
There is still no evidence, however, that Iraq possessed the stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons or active biological, chemical or nuclear programs that the Bush administration alleged before the war.

Imagine that....

4 posted on 11/05/2003 2:46:43 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Stultis
An official says the documents and evidence from U.S. interrogations suggest Iraq received technical assistance from two teams of Yugoslav missile experts and another foreign country that sources would not name

Huh? I thought Serbia was the pure and noble bastion of the world heroically holding back the Islamic hordes?

5 posted on 11/05/2003 2:53:50 PM PST by John H K
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To: billbears
It is amazing as the inspectors,the Brits,and the CIA thought they did because Saddam would not show what happened to them.
6 posted on 11/05/2003 2:54:22 PM PST by MEG33
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To: Stultis
Meanwhile, International Atomic Energy Agency head Mohammed ElBaradei is asking the United States to turn over a classified version of Iraq Survey Group leader David Kay.

This sentence doesn't quite make sense, does it? It seems like a few words are missing, maybe between "of" and "Iraq."

7 posted on 11/05/2003 2:56:22 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Stultis
I hope we find the fifth columnists living here.
8 posted on 11/05/2003 2:57:08 PM PST by MEG33
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To: Stultis
The Dems continue to say that Saddam was no threat and no danger. At some point, they are going to look like the fools they are and I can't wait.
9 posted on 11/05/2003 3:03:40 PM PST by Wait4Truth (Anyone that doesn't support Bush over these morons hates America!)
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To: MEG33
It is amazing as the inspectors,the Brits,and the CIA thought they did because Saddam would not show what happened to them.

Of course, the Brits and the CIA. Still looking for uranium in Africa too...And half the inspectors couldn't come to a consensus on what the Iraqis had. But you hold on to that vial of botulism in the refrigerator okay? Probably not enough to have fit into 30,000 munitions but at least the US government will be able to say it got something for that 87 billion dollars

Meanwhile the terrorists in Saudi Arabia, our 'ally', are living it up and 'escaping' from Saudi police daily

10 posted on 11/05/2003 3:05:47 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Stultis
Oh lookie! CBS and AP finally noticed the story. Here’s a FR thread from two days ago, when the Sydney Morning Herald had the story:

Treasure trove of intelligence files unearthed (Iraqi “Stasi” docs names names

11 posted on 11/05/2003 3:08:38 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Stultis
There is still no evidence, however, that Iraq possessed the stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons or active biological, chemical or nuclear programs that the Bush administration alleged before the war.

Umm, President Bush isn't the only one who has made these allegations. The libs make it sound like George Bush just woke up one morning and started making this stuff up out of thin air. These weapons have been known about, talked about, searched for, and been the topic of nearly a score of United Nations' resolutions. But the left will only tell us that Bush is doing the alleging.

12 posted on 11/05/2003 3:16:11 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Stultis
"There is still no evidence, however, that Iraq possessed the stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons or active biological, chemical or nuclear programs that the Bush administration alleged before the war."

This statement needs correction: " . . . that the Bush administration - echoing repeated warnings from the Clinton adminstration - alleged before the war."
13 posted on 11/05/2003 3:48:09 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: billbears
And half the inspectors couldn't come to a consensus on what the Iraqis had.

I take you mean aside from tons of yellowcake at Tubwaitha, and other stores and precusors the Iraqis admitted (under pressure) to having and refused to document the destruction of?

And certainly the uncertainty wouldn't be because Saddam refused to comply with his terms of surrender and U.S. supported U.N. resolutions demanding full disclosure of WMD weapons programs, would it? But we shoulda just backed down, right? It's not like this woulda been a sign of weakness and a clarion signal to terrorists to redouble their attacks against civilians in the United States.

No, we coulda continued the "containment" regime for another ten years at the cost of tens of billions of dollars a year, and/or have kept a couple hundred thousand American soldiers sitting in tents in Kuwait for another year or so.

14 posted on 11/05/2003 4:06:33 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Stultis
>>a massive stash of Iraqi intelligence files that hint at . . . a network of paid foreign agents

Boy, I bet that's causing some serious sphincter-pucker in some circles.

October surprise, anyone?
15 posted on 11/05/2003 4:08:09 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Stultis
check those names they found.....: Hildebeast, Levin, Conrad, Byrd, Kennedy.......looks right to me.....
16 posted on 11/05/2003 4:08:24 PM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
President Bush isn't the only one who has made these allegations.
 
I did not have sex with THAT WOMANchild Monica LewinskyClinton

17 posted on 11/05/2003 4:12:26 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Wolverine
"Recognizing the threat Iraq’s noncompliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security"

"Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material"

- UN Security Council Res. 1441. Nov. 13 2002. Passed on unanimous vote.
18 posted on 11/05/2003 4:25:32 PM PST by Spruce
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To: Miss Marple; Mo1; Molly Pitcher; Peach; prairiebreeze; cyncooper; Ragtime Cowgirl; ...
The Wall Street Journal reports the files have sparked an FBI investigation of possible criminal or espionage activity within the United States.

There were already indications of possible connections between Saddam's regime and persons or entities located in the United States.

Uh oh...

19 posted on 11/05/2003 5:19:36 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Yeah, but will we hear about them? We pay for this investigation...
20 posted on 11/05/2003 5:21:19 PM PST by Shermy
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