Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

[tubavil]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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[zeaal]

AQ just made an earthquake hit southern CA area ... nah, they can't do that can they?

[freeperfromnj]

The new addition to the picture looks like a missile.

[LayoutGuru2]

I found what might be Daleel's source for the addition to his picture. Is Daleel a lurker? Actually he could have picked up the picture anywhere.

OSAMA BIN LADEN SAID TO HAVE NUKES - Terrorists With Suitcases

Bin Laden said to have nukes Report: Extent of fugitive leader's arsenal 'no longer a doubt'

[snickeroon]

Please add me to the list, JustPiper. Am still trying to catch up with this thread. Just don't get me near a microwave (tinfoil alert), but this particular alert seems dire and different.

Personally, I feel that we need to be prayerful and cautious.....also prepared. Is there any sort of freep prep that we can use to keep informed in case of a simultaneous event? This is the FIRST place I'll try to get to, because the info is invaluable.

Perhaps my biggest reason for feeling more urgency is due to the AP story which said only a few days ago that even though this was the holiday season and there WAS increased chatter there was no reason to elevate the code. Then, a day later we have Libya's wmd announcement and all of a sudden----this! In addition, the Brit press says that American intel on al Queda has been coming from Libya. As has been mentioned before, what do THEY know and want to be isolated from retaliation about?

In addition, there is a blurb on (I believe) the Quayle site which translated, basically says it's ashamed that "all will have to be punished---tried by fire----for decisions on a national level...." First, it just seemed to be a different tone than previously used, and it seemed to evoke an attack of massive proportions. That, coupled with a number of additional puzzle pieces....plus the now you see them, now you don't suitcase revelations at least have me in a concerned mode.....WHICH DOES NOT MEAN that I will not continue to find a few last presents, wrap, visit, worship and celebrate the true "reason for the season."

May God bless us, "each and every one...."

[Quix]

I'm pretty certain they cannot.

Supposedly China, RUSSIA and/or THE USA can.

Who knows how true it is . . . supposedly involves scalar waves . . . such as Tessla et al have dinked around with.

I do believe there will be another CA or Seattle area quake within relatively few days. We shall see.

What's on the opposite side of the globe . . . . Madagascar. I doubt there'll be anything significant there.

Indonesia?

We shall see.

[LayoutGuru2]

[Calpernia]

Don't be too sure. Daleel made posts already claiming responsibility for if and when the Yellowstone Volcano errupts :) (seriously).

[Calpernia]

Did you get to review the post I made with the Iranian Military Presentation?

[Quix]

Am reminded of the old saw

WHERE THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY.

Al Qaeda has the money.

Al Qaeda has the will.

Al Qaeda can get the expertise if they haven't learned it themselves. Pakistan is easy enough. Lybia, North Korea have all probably helped out, as has Iran.

Money talks. Money walks, Money flies. Money buys all kinds of things--even rare elements needed for nukes.

Russia is not noted for it's sequestered convent level morality.

Nor is Pakistan. Certainly not North Korea. China would sell lots of their own children for enough money.

I agree it could be even VERY improbable. I don't know that it

IS

VERY

improbable.

It seems to me, it's becoming more and more probable.

[Poohbah]

I always thought it was "Where there's a will, there's a probate attorney and greedy relatives."

[freeperfromnj]

Is that in this thread or one of the others that you sent? I'm catching up on a lot and don't recall seeing that one.

[Quix]

I assume I'm on your PING list.

If not, please add me.

Blessings,

[Quix]

For sure.

Though, in my case, unlikely--nothing to leave behind!

[Poohbah]

Al Qaeda has the money.

Al Qaeda has the will.

Given Laurie Mylorie's interesting hypothesis--supported by some solid evidence--that al-Qaeda is a creation of Iraqi Intelligence...

...maybe they don't have much of either any more.

Al Qaeda can get the expertise if they haven't learned it themselves. Pakistan is easy enough. Lybia, North Korea have all probably helped out, as has Iran.

None of these countries has the expertise needed to make the really small nukes.

Money talks. Money walks, Money flies. Money buys all kinds of things--even rare elements needed for nukes.

Still can't stop tritium decay, though.

[Quix]

Would you classify a container nuke as a

"really small"

nuke?

How complicated is tritium processing? Countries of origin?

I still think that Russia's borders were plenty open and probably still are if enough money passes hands. Shoot, doesn't the Russian mafia run major sectors of the country?

Could the origin of the tritium be detected from analysis AFTER a blast?

[Quix]

I still think Iran is plenty eager to fund AlQaeda out the ying yang.

[FairOpinion]

"my daughter by the nuke plants"

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Probably the safest place, because I think the security around there is probably very very tight.

[buckrat]

A radical Muslim threatens the U.S.

The Yahoo group Daleel Al-Mojahid (Guide for the Jihadi) has gotten attention in the past few months for passing on threats against Americans. Those threats didn't turn out to be substantive, but the man posting there now offers an oblique excuse: "We promise you a big surprise coming soon which was delayed due to the stupid play of bush and his wizards in the black house."

The "stupid play" seems to have been the capture of Saddam. Daleel assures us that "Saddam is in Iraq and he is still in his right place, so keep on your jihad as we get ready to make a strong come back and diminish these crusaders in the right time at the right moment. From Chechnya to Afghanistan passing by Iraq we will defeat the United States of America with Gods hands and power, we will teach bush and his wizards and turn his magic upon them soon."

You see, the Americans just captured a "Saddam look-a-like." Then they were "taking him out of Iraq and making him go under 6 surgery's to his face which shows so clear in the pictures that were given out, in his eyes and in his cheeks and to his noose and the rest of the face!"

His "noose," eh?

With the terror threat is high this week, Daleel offers a glimpse into the jihadist mindset. Despite earlier wolf-crying episodes, he is full of new threats. One is addressed "to all the crusaders." It declares, "we have warned you alot of times to get out from our muslim lands and stop funding the jewish state but you dont listen and you will never listen."

Therefore, in the coming attack, "Sowrds [sic] of islam will strike the head of the big snake and cut it as we have cut its tale and slapt the rest of its body. and then the world will watch and say (how could a big and great empire like this fall on its knees with out a breath?) and we say what god says in his holy book the Quran (how many times has a small bunch of people been able to win a big and huge army with the word of god!!)." This one concludes: "alaah akbaar and to a new era of islam."

Another message adds: "We can tell you that the wire has been led up and it's in its final stages and nothing will stop it but God and the wisdom of the Arab rules and the non Arab rules, we can tell you that we are people from you and with in you, planning with you and have knowledge of all your planes."

Daleel is all heart. He even apologizes to the human race for what he says is to come: "we apologize from now to the human race from the hardship that will affect them as an aftermath to the attack, but it is a less hardship for us than to see continents slaved, we apologize in advance to the American people and to the European community's but you have stud [stood] hand in hand with your governments and left the Jews take control of the rest of the world."

He lists a number of demands that must be met in order to forestall the attack. These include "The complete and right away stop of your (masked) invasion of our Islamic lands in any part of the world east or west"; "The dismantle of the so called (United Nations and its council) in an international decision"; and "the pricing of oil is left to us and we promise you to make it available at a reasonable price for poor and for rich nations."

The conclusion: "We have given you the solution, so either you are with us or
against us, that's your way of thinking isn't it! But we know that you are not with us but you will be forced to be (and we have warned). It is not in our morals to attack you with such a big attack with out a warning, we wont do what you did to us times and times before under the rule of the devilish tree that was planted by (whom you know) feeding it and giving it water with your blessings as you enslaved your self's and your people under their rule.

"All you have to do now is to stand up for once a real stand for your own good and the good of your nation and people that will be attacked by total destruction (cave of darkness), and history will re-write that your punishment was a combined punishment of all the nations that came before you and walked your same path. And you will then cry like women in your underground caves.

The jihad will be televised: "And it will be fair enough for you to see that for us knowing that you will run away hiding in your underground caves, we will give you a prior few minutes notice before our blessed attack so that you will be able to watch your destruction with your own satellite as we would be by then have passed the sky's of the seventh sky to heaven and your nation to the fires of hell, and what and end for letting you govern them and move them to the direction of hell and what a direction!"

He ends up with the truly Satanic juxtaposition of "Praise to God almighty" with "Islamic Jihad Brigade (Black Death Squad)," of which he is apparently is claiming to be a member.

ADDENDUM: In light of a comment posted here, I thought I should clarify: I do not take the threats above seriously, although there seem to be other threats that have led to the heightened threat level. Aaron Weisburd at Internet Haganah has discovered that Daleel Al-Mojahid is posting from Dubai, and doesn't seem to have any real connection with Al-Qaeda. I present his ravings above not as the contents of a real threat, but (as I said above) as a glimpse into the jihadist mindset, which, alas, is shared by millions today. (One other thing: are real terrorists using the Internet? Sure.)

Found this here Jihad Watch

[angkor]

So Daleel is getting his suitcase nuke photos from CNN?

[Aggie Mama]

I do seem to remember hearing something about them bragging to the strippers that danced for them in Vegas.