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Red Sox Place Ramirez On Waivers
Associated Press ^ | 10-30-03 | unknown

Posted on 10/30/2003 4:17:20 AM PST by johnny7

Silver Slugger winner to make $20.5M in '04
BOSTON (AP) -- The Red Sox placed All-Star slugger Manny Ramirez on irrevocable waivers, The New York Times and the Boston Herald reported Thursday. The move means any major league team can have Ramirez -- if it is willing to pay his salary. The outfielder has five years and $104 million remaining on a $160 million, eight-year contract. He is scheduled to make $20.5 million next season.

When contacted by The Associated Press, Red Sox spokesman Kevin Shea said: "The waiver procedure is a confidential procedure, and we're prohibited from commenting on it. We're not permitted to say whether a player is on or is not on waivers." A phone message left by the AP for Ramirez's agent, Jeff Moorad, was not immediately returned.

Ramirez hit .325 this year, one point behind teammate Bill Mueller for the AL batting title, and had 37 homers and 104 RBIs. The Red Sox won the wild card and advanced to AL championship series before losing to the New York Yankees in seven games. The left fielder was placed on waivers just two days after Boston announced it would not bring back manager Grady Little, who led the team to 188 regular-season wins the past two years.

Ramirez is one of baseball's best hitters, but he often struggles in the outfield and on the bases. He was benched by Little late this season after he missed a crucial series against the Yankees with a sore throat and fever, yet managed to pull himself out of bed to reminisce with New York infielder Enrique Wilson about their days in Cleveland. Then Ramirez didn't show up for an appointment with the team doctor, and when he joined the club the next day he sat on the bench but said he was "too weak" to pinch-hit.

And in a game at Yankee Stadium in September, the absent-minded Ramirez tossed the ball into the stands after making a nice catch, thinking there were three outs when there were only two. If no team claims Ramirez by the midnight deadline Friday, he will remain with the Red Sox, The Times reported in Thursday's editions.

Ramirez, 30, was signed as a free agent by former Boston general manager Dan Duquette in December 2000. Ramirez is scheduled to earn $20 million in 2005, $19 million in 2006, $18 million in 2007 and $20 million in 2008. He also is due $4 million a year in deferred, no-interest salary from 2004-10, and he's still owed $10 million of his $16 million signing bonus, the Herald reported on its Web site. Ramirez's club options for 2009 and 2010 are each worth $20 million.

Copyright 2003 the Associated Press.


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KEYWORDS: baseball; ramirez; redsox
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1 posted on 10/30/2003 4:17:21 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7; ABG(anybody but Gore); Radix
!!!! Heavens to Betsy!! They really want to dump a high salary don't they?? Not exactly an encouraging move for any prospective new managers.....

That's all we need, Ramirez going to the Yankees....

2 posted on 10/30/2003 4:23:10 AM PST by Molly Pitcher (Is Reality Optional?)
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To: johnny7
I don't know if I like this. The shock of that loss hasn't even totally registered (since most Sox fans ignored the World Series...was there one?) and management is getting rid of people who did pretty well this season. I'd rather they take time to analyze the season before deciding what the problem was.

In the ALCS, there were scenes of Manny Ramiriz actually hugging people and congratulating them for successes...one might think that was a clone, based on the previous year.

That field...Ramiriz, Damon, Nixon/Ortiz was really good.

Are we going to be hearing about a new "Grady Little curse" or "Manny Ramiriz curse" in the future? I'd bet yes...no one, fans or ownership, are going to ever blame Martiniz for his pitching or Nomar for his lacksidasial performance; it'll have to be someone else's fault or divine intervention that caused the loss.

3 posted on 10/30/2003 4:26:01 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: johnny7
Good move.
4 posted on 10/30/2003 4:37:30 AM PST by RJCogburn ("I want a man with grit."..................Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: RJCogburn
I hope the Yankees get him...signed life-long Tiger fan...
5 posted on 10/30/2003 4:40:29 AM PST by dakine
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To: Molly Pitcher
It is highly unlikely he will be claimed off waivers.
The contract is guaranteed, as are all baseball contracts.
The Sox are still on the hook for 104 million dollars.
The only thing they are dumping is the player.
6 posted on 10/30/2003 4:46:47 AM PST by dtel (Texas Longhorn cattle for sale. We don't rent pigs.)
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To: Molly Pitcher
No way the Yankees will seek Ramirez. Talented yes, but woefully lacking in baseball smarts and team spirit. In current sports parlance, I'd say he's viewed more as a "cancer" than as a superstar.
7 posted on 10/30/2003 4:54:28 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Molly Pitcher
When Little left Pedro in in the eighth, my wife went ballistic - it was as the rocket scientists say, a "staging event". With Little, and multi-slacker Manny gone all we need to do is dump Pedro and sign Sorriano (sp?) for her to get her fondest wish. (Actually reviving and rejuvenating Ted Williams would do that.)
8 posted on 10/30/2003 4:55:10 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay and Idi-ay are ead-day)
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To: grania
"In the ALCS, there were scenes of Manny Ramiriz actually hugging people and congratulating them for successes..."

There was also that scene of him on the high-not tight-pitch from Roger.More like his old self.

9 posted on 10/30/2003 4:56:47 AM PST by John W
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To: johnny7
He's a cancer. Someone will take him, thinking this contract will be a bargain in a few years (Yankees? Dodgers?), but it's a fool's bargain. I think Epstein is an absolute dolt for firing Little, but this move makes some sense.
10 posted on 10/30/2003 4:56:50 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
LOL! Agree Manny is a slacker - we put up with some of that in Cleveland - but I just hope he lands in the National League.

Heard on Monday that the Sox were interested is several guys with Tribe ties....Charlie Manuel for instance, and Mike Hargrove.

Manuel is a total incompetent in the manager's spot.

11 posted on 10/30/2003 4:58:22 AM PST by Molly Pitcher (Is Reality Optional?)
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To: Molly Pitcher
That's all we need, Ramirez going to the Yankees....

Even the Yankees won't spend $20 million/season on a player like Ramirez. It sounds like the Yankees plan to go after free agent OF Vladimir Guerrero from Montreal. They should be able to sign him for $13-$15 million per season. He's a lifetime .323 hitter who's averaged 37 HR and 110 RBI over the past 6 seasons.

12 posted on 10/30/2003 4:59:43 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: Molly Pitcher
That's all we need, Ramirez going to the Yankees....

They can have him. He's a waste of skin. He'll do wonders for the clubhouse chemistry in the Bronx.

13 posted on 10/30/2003 5:00:57 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Things are more like they are now than they ever were before.)
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To: Molly Pitcher
That's all we need, Ramirez going to the Yankees....

Manny had pretty impressive numbers at the plate this year (not as good as previous years though), but I can count on one hand how many clutch hits he got (and still have a finger or two to flip him off when he goes to the Yankmees). But he'll probably be back in the Red Sox linup in April and he'll be even more unbearable.

14 posted on 10/30/2003 5:07:22 AM PST by Living Free in NH (I'm Living Free in NH and I approved this post.)
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To: johnny7
This is a big gamble for epstein manny to let him go without trading him for big talent is risky. I know they want to go after guerrero and tejada but that is certainly not a sure thing especially since we dont even have a manager right now.
15 posted on 10/30/2003 5:08:19 AM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant (I am still not over it.)
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To: Molly Pitcher
I don't think Steinbrenner will want him. Or Joe Torre for that matter. Manny Ramirez may be a productive player individually but he is a horrible team player. He is a whiner, griper, sulker, and a very immature man. One off-field example comes to mind from a couple of years ago: On the team bus, when the manager was giving a pep talk, Manny sat there with his headphones on, zoning out to music. The coach asked him politely to remove the headphones and Manny just folded his arms and glowered insolently back in response. If I was the coach, I would have ripped those headphones off his ears and stamped on them in the middle of the bus aisle. Half the bus probably would have applauded. But I would surely have been fired too because as you know, in a confrontation between a coach and a star player making zillions of dollars, the ownership usually sides with the player.

These type of individuals have been the bane of the Red Sox for decades and I'm glad the new ownership appears serious about rooting them out. However, I am not confident that any other team out there will take Manny and the huge salary that goes with it. So the Sox risk having an even more disgruntled Manny for next year to contend with. Let's hope that the new manager has the gonads (and the ownership backing) to let Manny ride the bench if he pulls any of those shenanigans next year. Maybe he can be straightened out with the right managerial approach.

BTW, I am a manager myself and I have had to get rid of gifted employees who had a lot to offer. However, their inability to get along with their co-workers and customers affected morale and business in such an adverse way that their skills and strengths were offset by their negatives.

17 posted on 10/30/2003 5:28:15 AM PST by SamAdams76 (202.4 (-97.6) Homestretch to 200)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
If no one claims him, he remains with the Sox. It's a good move, because if he's claimed, they're essentially getting $90+ million for him. If he isn't claimed, it's still a signal to everyone that they're willing to deal.

However, any deal is going to be less favorable to the Sox than having him claimed, I think.
18 posted on 10/30/2003 5:30:46 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: johnny7
This moves says the Sox will be offering new contracts to Nomar and Pedro and will pay for it by trading off half of Manny's contract for some more pitching.
19 posted on 10/30/2003 5:41:10 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Molly Pitcher
I just hope he lands in the National League.

Ramirez is definitely an American League player. As his poor outfield skills begin to diminish further with age, he will be able to hide as a DH (see Jose Canseco, Albert Belle).

The Yankees would seem to be the only team that might take him off the BoSox' hands. (Can Sox have hands?) But then that would keep the Yanks from taking Sammy Sosa, which, as a Cubs fan, I hope they do.

20 posted on 10/30/2003 5:55:45 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Do baseball players develop tag lines?)
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