Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

TERRI MISREPRESENTED IN THE SMALLEST OF MEDIA OUTLETS- MY COLLEGE NEWSPAPER!
North Texas Daily... ^ | October 28, 2003 | North Texas Daily

Posted on 10/29/2003 12:45:09 PM PST by FreepinforTerri

Right-to-die: Murder or mercy ? EDITORIAL

October 28, 2003

Most of us will never know the exact day or moment in which we'll die. We simply live our lives without regard for such things and enjoy the time that we are given. Unfortunately, for Terri Schiavo, her right-to-die and right-to-live are being debated in vicious court battles as her existence lies in limbo. The scenario being played out is simply this: Her husband wants her dead and her parents what her alive.

Terri Schiavo has spent the last 13 years in a "persistent vegetative state" after suffering a heart attack that left her so severely brain damaged that doctors claim she has no cognitive abilities at all. Thus, she cannot see, hear or think and, more than likely, she never will.

In Michael Schiavo's quest to let his wife die, he was successful once in 2001 when a court ordered her feeding tube to be disconnected for two days before being reconnected by order of a different judge after her parents petitioned. And again, her feeding tube was recently removed on Oct. 15 for a second time until a law tailor-made for Terri Schiavo was passed by Florida Gov. Jeb Bush to mandate the tubes be reinserted.

The brazen law passed by Bush issued a "one-time stay to prevent the withholding of nutrition and hydration from a patient" who meets four criteria specifically meant for Terri Schiavo and has left many in the legal community angry, claiming that the law is a violation of her constitutional rights and liberties (NY Times, Oct. 23).

From a legal perspective, the word 'stay' typically refers to a temporary suspension of a judicial decision. But according to Patrick O. Guilridge, a law professor at the University of Miami, "They wanted to use the word 'stay' because the analogy is to a stay of execution" (NY Times, Oct. 23).

The main questions now become whether the Florida legislature was authorized to undo a judicial decision, and whether or not the separation of powers doctrine was violated in this recent act.

According to Kathryn McCauley, NT's student legal adviser, "The courts have already found by clear and convincing evidence that this woman didn't want to be kept alive like this," and to pass a law that opposes that is a violation of her civil liberties. Additionally, in this case, "The powers of separation were violated in a big, big way. And regardless of what you feel personally, ethically or morally, there are bigger questions regarding whether the legislature over-stepped it's bounds."

So what is it about this case that bothers us the most? Is it the idea of starvation? And would this case have gone this far had Terri Schiavo been kept alive on another form of life support?

Dr. Jacquelyn Clomka, registered nurse and assistant professor at the UT Health Science Center at Houston, claimed, "Providing nutrition and hydration is not synonymous with feeding someone or with eating. In fact until recently, the use of a feeding tube was called 'forced feeding' " (Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, June 2003).

As a matter of fact, withholding nutrition and hydration from patients is fairly common practice when it comes to patients who are nearing their last days. And it is said to be relatively painless as, "Anecdotal evidence has shown that ... the effects of ketosis [the body using fat for fuel] and the body's release of endogenous opioids [substances created by our bodies in order to fight pain] during starvation are thought to block pain and discomfort" (Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, June 2003).

Unfortunately, in Terri Schiavo's case, the Terri that her parents are fighting to save died within herself 13 years ago, and regardless of the legal outcome she will never be the same. "Most experts maintain that such hopes are grounded more in love than in medicine" (MSNBC, Oct. 26).

As Terri Schiavo's life is limboed in her own personal purgatory, we should ask ourselves: At what point do the abilities of law and medicine make gods of men? And where do we draw the line.

In Terri Schiavo's brief 26 years of consciousness, she was said to have been reserved, quiet and shy. With that in mind, you can't help but wonder if Schiavo were conscious today would she despise the legal battle she's become the subject of, or the bitter dispute it has created between those she loved? Would it be safe to assume that she would want to die the way she lived, privately? Despite the legal outcome of this case, everyone should realize the importance of communicating with your loved ones about what you would want if this were to happen to you. You should put your wishes in writing or contract a living will.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gojeb; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
The holocaust started with euthanasia under the semantic veneer of 'mercy killing.' Funny advocates for murdered Terri Schiavo use the same phrase...

Jacqueline Harvey jch0066@unt.edu Graduate Student and NT Alumna

1 posted on 10/29/2003 12:45:09 PM PST by FreepinforTerri
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: FreepinforTerri
"You should put your wishes in writing or contract a living will."

Which is precisely why Terri shouldn't be killed. She has never expressed her intent on these matters, except, allegedly, to the guy who is going to get her $750K med mal award when she dies....he has every motivation to lie and we haven't heard from her.

In such a circumstance, it is a no-brainer: you side with life.

2 posted on 10/29/2003 12:47:59 PM PST by ConservativeDude
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreepinforTerri
Funny advocates for murdered Terri Schiavo use the same phrase... not really they server the same master!
3 posted on 10/29/2003 12:48:17 PM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreepinforTerri
"The courts have already found by clear and convincing evidence that this woman didn't want to be kept alive like this," and to pass a law that opposes that is a violation of her civil liberties.

Lie. All they had was some off-hand remark that she may or may not have made at age 26 about not wanting to be "kept alive like that." No documentation whatsoever, and certainly no indication she wanted to starve to death.

"The powers of separation were violated in a big, big way. And regardless of what you feel personally, ethically or morally, there are bigger questions regarding whether the legislature over-stepped it's bounds."

Even bigger lie. The only thing being violated here is the unchecked power of the tyrranical judiciary. Governors and legislators should CONSTANTLY be undoing bad court decisions with new legislation--or better yet, impeaching rogue judges.

4 posted on 10/29/2003 12:57:43 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreepinforTerri
BUMP - you go, girl!!! :D
5 posted on 10/29/2003 12:59:59 PM PST by dandelion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreepinforTerri
BUMP - you go, girl!!! :D
6 posted on 10/29/2003 1:08:38 PM PST by dandelion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free_at_last_-2001
BTTT
7 posted on 10/29/2003 1:08:42 PM PST by Lion in Winter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeDude
It seems you have confused killing with simply dying. When you force feed someone without experiencing any emotional or mental knowledge of their real world is not being humane. This would be especially so after 13 years of being in this state.

There has been no record of anyone after 13 years ever coming out of this kind of physical state. I understand now that the insurance settlement has been used up and she is now being billed to the taxpayers.

Her mother and father are in a total state of denial, just like so many on this web site. I watched one of my wives die of cancer. In fact, I suspect that she and her doctor (close friend) agreed that when I could no longer care for her at home he would help her. I was in a total state of denial for months until close friends visited this one day. They realized that keeping her at home was taking a heavy toll on both me and the children. Finally, after two days sleeping on the floor next to her without any movement of her in bed since it would cause pain and difficulty in taking liquid I called out doctor. She was admitted that afternoon and died the following morning. The kids when they were told began carrying on real badly. I asked them a simple question. Would you want mom here as she was in bed or at peace with God. They didn't say anything in response at first and then began talking about the good times we all had.

That is when I realized how far I went into the denial state myself.

The quality of life is in my view extremely important and it don't mean in excellent health, but rather able to know and experience the simple things of talking or being held.

So for those of you saying that removing the feeding tube is killing should reflect on life's reality.
8 posted on 10/29/2003 1:16:44 PM PST by spookie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]


9 posted on 10/29/2003 1:55:08 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: FreepinforTerri
There is no honesty, integrity or compassion in living with a girl friend, having children by her while your wife is tragically ill, not to mention fighting with her parents over a settlement. If Terri's so called husband had any of the "right stuff" he would not have abandoned the marriage vows so that he could get on with his life. This situation is so sad, and the husband has lost the opportunity to demonstrate to the world that we are more than animals.

Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments. Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds, Or bends with the remover to remove. O, no, it is an ever- fixed mark that looks on tempests and is never shaken; It is star to every wandering bark, Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken. Love's not time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks within his bending sickle's compass come; Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks, But bears it out even to the edge of doom. If this be error and upon me proved, I never writ, nor no man ever loved.
William Shakespeare

10 posted on 10/29/2003 2:26:31 PM PST by rdrunner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spookie
There has been no record of anyone after 13 years ever coming out of this kind of physical state. I understand now that the insurance settlement has been used up and she is now being billed to the taxpayers.

Actually, such things have happened. As for her care being billed to the taxpayers, if that is so it is only because her husband-in-name-only refuses to allow her parents to take care of her themselves. If the parents volunteer their time to take care of Terri, as is their stated intention, the actual monetary cost of care will be slight--comparable to that of a typical teenager. Besides, there was a $750K trust fund set aside for Terri's care and treatment. Given that very little of that trust fund has been used for Terri's care and treatment, it seems rather dubious for Michael to be billing Terri's care to the state, does it not?

11 posted on 10/29/2003 4:15:12 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: rdrunner
If Terri's so called husband had any of the "right stuff" he would not have abandoned the marriage vows so that he could get on with his life.

Or else he would have done so but admitted same. I don't think many people here would have faulted him for seeking a divorce. I would expect that if he'd done so soon after winning the malpractice award, a jury would probably have found that Terri's $750K trust fund obviated the need for any other sort of alimony.

12 posted on 10/29/2003 4:17:05 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: supercat
Given that very little of that trust fund has been used for Terri's care and treatment,

Since you seem to know everything, who has been paying for her care for the past 14 years?

13 posted on 10/29/2003 4:44:14 PM PST by Hildy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Hildy
Since you seem to know everything, who has been paying for her care for the past 14 years?

Initially her parents. Then, briefly, Michael--probably using some of the trust fund money, even if stingily, for its intended purpose. Then the hospice where Terri was warehoused. And now, apparently, the state.

14 posted on 10/29/2003 5:03:52 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: FreepinforTerri
At what point do the abilities of law and medicine make gods of men?

Excellent question. I'll venture an opinion about when "medicine makes gods of men". When medicine has within its means to prolong life instead of death, but the decision is made to prolong death, medicine has made a god of men. When medicine has the means and technology to save a life, but chooses to withold those methods and technology based on arbitary definitions of "quality of life" then medicine has made a god of men. No man can determine the quality of another man's life.

In other words, medicine is in the business of saving lives. Period. The natural death process should not be tampered with, but removing a feeding tube from someone who is being "forced fed" and dying is entirely different from removing a tube from someone who is not dying and needs it to sustain life. As of now, Terri Schindler is not dying. The gods would be those who choose to remove her tube.

I've sat on both sides of the fence and seen first hand how feeding tubes can save lives or prolong death temporarily.

15 posted on 10/29/2003 5:38:15 PM PST by keri
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: keri
The gods would be those who choose to remove her tube.

Exactly. Feeding someone will not grant immortality, but starving someone or dehydrating them will certainly kill them.

16 posted on 10/29/2003 7:05:01 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson