'Liberal' sparks Hawaiian-only firestorm (This isn't just a Hawaiian issue)

Honolulu Advertiser ^ | October 27, 2003 | David Waite

[GrandmaPatriot]

Some have concluded that he is, at best, a white supremacist and, at worst, evil incarnate.

Others believe he is just another malihini lawyer, a carpetbagger who has lined his pockets at the expense of Native Hawaiians by challenging Hawaiians-only voting for trustees to the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, the expenditure of public money for programs that benefit Hawaiians and a Hawaiians-preferred admissions policy at Kamehameha Schools.

[GrandmaPatriot]

The Hawaiian recognition bill seeks to pull a thoroughly integrated ethnic group out of society and create an ethnic nationalist government. The same arguments favoring an ethnic Hawaiian “nation” would also favor nationhood for Mexican-Americans, whose radical sovereignty groups MEChA and Nation of Aztlan are very active in California and the Southwest. The legal theory behind the Hawaiian recognition bill makes Hawaiian nationalism the thin edge of a knife poised to balkanize America and perhaps eventually dismember it. Hawaiian nationalism, Chicano nationalism, Black nationalism, and demands for reparations are destabilizing America. Passage of the Hawaiian Recognition bill would give legal and political support to all such radical movements.

To see more on this subject go here

Petition opposing the Akaka Bill to be sent to President Bush and Congress here

[JohnGalt]

Is there any organized Hawaiian secessionist movement that could be supported?

I would certainly like to see Hawaii lose its two US senators and let them be free to choose there own destiny.

I am sure a deal could be worked out, similar to Cuba to lease land for whatever reasonable military requirements the US would need.

[Rodney King]

That's a great idea. We should just let them have their own country.

[Modernman]

I would certainly like to see Hawaii lose its two US senators and let them be free to choose there own destiny

You know, I'd never thought of it in that light. Maybe we can also get Alberta admitted to the US at the same time-net gain of 4 Republican Senators, plus we don't have to change flags.

[k2blader]

Trask and her ilk are all-out racists.

That said, most folks are highly ignorant of the background of Kamehameha Schools, a private school operating on revenue generated from the estate of Princess Bernice Pauahi, who desired to educate children of Hawaiian ancestry.

Of course, leftists have no problem with reversing a dead person's will and undermining the rules of a private institution all in the name of "racial tolerance".

[GrandmaPatriot]

I hope that is sarcasm in you post. I guess you would have let the south secede from the Union and just say you support it because you don't like their representation in congress. A bit short sighted for a growing movement that could be a serious threat to the US. How about an Atzlan nation in the southwest or a MEChA nation? Would you also support that? Not to mention the location of the defense for the US in Hawaii.

Please say you were just being sarcastic, because the list of advantages could go on and on.

[GrandmaPatriot]

That trust is a tax exempt trust, therefore, should be held to the same standard as all other public funded entities. Or they could just give up their tax exempt status. Think that will ever happen? NO

[JohnGalt]

No, I am quite serious about Hawaii, and really at this stage, I don't care much about Mexifornia. The Rocky states will still have the water rights so nothing really lost, and I hate bailing out California with federal tax dollars every time the economy has a downturn.

[pabianice]

This is the near-term future of Failed Liberalism and the Democratic Party: to create as many phony "ethnic identity groups" as possible, each one screeching for public money to be used for utterly sectarian and Left-wing causes.

[k2blader]

I think the left was successful at striking out another part of Pauahi's will, the requirement that "the teachers of said schools shall forever be persons of the Protestant religion". No doubt they'll eventually be successful at striking out the "preference to Hawaiians of pure or part aboriginal blood" as well.

Once that happens, quibblings over who is or isn't Hawaiian, who is or isn't indigent, and who is or isn't unfairly disallowed admission will still continue.

But that's okay, because the evil, rich leviathan will have been defeated, and keiki of all creeds and colors will rightly have the liberty to attend another 3rd-rate school in Hawaii.

[Rodney King]

I've been thinking for a while that we ought to make a push for Alberta. They would be a great addition to the country.

[caisson71]

The will of Princess Pauahi states that the money from her estate was for the education of the "children of Hawaii". This 'recognition' bill, also called the "Akaka Bill" is strictly race based and seeks to establish Hawaiians as a tribe, which Congress cannot do - but that never stopped them before. The Akaka bill is opposed by as many Hawaiians as those who support it. However, advocates have obtained strategic positions, ie. publically funded tenured positions at the University of Hawaii, publically funded PR agencies, liberal media, etc, to promote this cause. They have even managed to convince the newly elected Republican Governor to back the Akaka Bill because it has become a deviding emotional issue and is without merit in fact. It does, however, govern quite a number of votes from those who feel they will continue to benefit, financially, because of their ethnicity.

[k2blader]

I'm against the "Akaka Bill".

[junta]

I like that idea.

[skeeter]

...I hate bailing out California with federal tax dollars every time the economy has a downturn.

The other 49 can criticise Cali for a great number of things, but not pulling our own weight fiscally ain't one of em.

[MoJo2001]

This is hilarious!

Next Up: The Samoan Nation, The Chamorru Nation, The Tongans in America Nation.

Dear God,

Please don't let any of these people be related to MoJo. Please! Please! Please!

[ALOHA RONNIE]

"There might not even be an America around in 300 years" =

...Former President BILL CLINTON after the Attacks of Sept. 11th.

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been...
...doing whatever he can...
...to make it so.


ALOHA RONNIE

[Chuckster]

Is there any organized Hawaiian secessionist movement that could be supported?

I would certainly like to see Hawaii lose its two US senators and let them be free to choose there own destiny.

I am sure a deal could be worked out, similar to Cuba to lease land for whatever reasonable military requirements the US would need.

Is there any organized Massachusets secessionist movement that could be supported?

I would certainly like to see Massachusets lose its two US senators and let them be free to choose there own destiny.

I am sure a deal could be worked out, similar to Cuba to lease land for whatever reasonable military requirements the US would need.

(chuckster has ben a Hawaii resident since 1977)

[JohnGalt]

Yes, I am it's founder.

And no, I am not kidding.

[Sam's Army]

How many members do you currently have in this seperatist organization?