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A Battle Over a Life, so Fraught With Irony
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 5/3/01 | MARY JO MELONE

Posted on 10/26/2003 2:04:02 PM PST by Normally a Lurker

Behind the story of the fight over whether Terri Schiavo should live is another story.

This one is about how she came to exist in this terrible twilight, not fully dead but not really alive.

Terri Schiavo apparently had an eating disorder.

Even some of her family members have said they think so.

Eleven years ago, when she was 26, Schiavo collapsed with the disease of the middle aged, the old, the overweight.

The St. Petersburg woman had a heart attack when her body ran low on potassium, the chemical needed to make the muscles work. No muscle matters more than the heart. This is the way women with eating disorders usually go. Whatever the cause, they die at rates 12 times higher than women who eat normally.

Potassium is why sweaty athletes guzzle Gatorade. It contains potassium. You also find it in bananas, potatoes, oranges. They are ordinary foods, to ordinary eaters. But women who suffer from anorexia -- who starve themselves -- or from bulimia -- who vomit what they eat -- regard even a Ritz cracker as a threat.

Family members have said Terri Schiavo put herself on a liquid diet in high school because she was overweight and dateless. She was a size 12 when she married three years later, but that wasn't enough. She kept dieting so she could finally wear a bikini at the beach. She lived afraid of what all dieters fear, that the pounds will return.

Schiavo had other red flags signaling the possibility of an eating disorder, said Susan Mullins, who counsels women with eating disorders at Tampa's Hyde Park Counseling Center.

Schiavo suffered abdominal pains before the heart attack. They occur when you throw up a lot or your stomach, so used to no food, finally gets some.

Her period was intermittent. If you don't eat enough, your body doesn't produce what's necessary to create the uterine lining that is shed every month in menstruation.

And if you don't have a uterine lining, there's no place for a fertilized egg to attach itself. Terri Schiavo wanted to get pregnant, but couldn't.

Schiavo's family didn't see her problem before her heart attack. Her husband has insisted he saw nothing wrong at all. That's also common.

"We've had women in treatment who were married for 15 years, and their spouses have not known," said Mullins. "There's a lot of hiding, a lot of secrecy, shame, embarrassment associated with eating disorders."

Not even Schiavo's doctors knew her problem. This is also typical. They don't know what to look for.

"Medical ignorance is pretty widespread," said Robin Piper, who runs the Turning Point of Tampa, another clinic that treats women with eating disorders.

Eating disorders are another stop in that crazy house of distorted perceptions called addiction. Women can't stop using food to hurt themselves the way drunks and junkies can't stop using liquor or crack to hurt themselves. Yet this thing that has a woman out of control is, to her, about being in control.

"If I can't control what happens to me or my family, I can control what I eat. You can't make me eat," Piper said.

We live in a culture where zero is a dress size and a status symbol. That's why I tell you all this. It might save a life. The appeals may go from the Pinellas circuit courts to the U.S. Supreme Court again, but it's almost certainly too late for Terri Schiavo.

Her parents and the growing circle of strangers around the country who call themselves her advocates say they are fighting for what Terri Schiavo would want. They are so sure they know. But if you understand that she had an eating disorder, what she would want is a disturbing, tantalizing question.

Said Robin Piper: "She spent all her life fighting whether to eat, and now people are fighting over whether to feed her or not. What would she think if she knew?"


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So much misinformation, speculation, inuendo, etc. has been presented on this site about this subject, I thought it might be informative to review some older articles written when this subject was somewhat less controversial.

BTW, it should be noted that Terri's family was apparently aware of this eating disorder problem long before she ever met her husband.

1 posted on 10/26/2003 2:04:02 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
Dr. Hammesfahr, of HAMMESFAHR NEUROLOGICAL INSTITUTE. http://www.hni-online.com/ emphatically stated that the neck spinal injury this patient incurred was by Strangulation. Schiavo's attorney avoided challenging Dr. Hammesfahr's strangulation statement. Proof of those statements below - video of the Dr saying it, along with saying that with therapy, her condition can improve.

what do you think about this info?

2 posted on 10/26/2003 2:14:07 PM PST by sirchtruth
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To: Normally a Lurker
Thanks for this article, you can be assured that it will be ignored, refuted, and cursed by those who would profess to KNOW exactly what is the right thing to do for a woman who has been in such a sorry medical condition for thirteen years.

Sadly, this case could have been a cautionary tale for those with eating disorders and their families and physicians.

3 posted on 10/26/2003 2:17:47 PM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Normally a Lurker
The St. Petersburg woman had a heart attack when her body ran low on potassium, the chemical needed to make the muscles work.

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May I see the physician's blood tests and diagnosis of this?

4 posted on 10/26/2003 2:23:25 PM PST by RLK
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It appears that you are among the apparently few posting here that would consider the facts in this case, rather than acting on emotion, wild speculation, remote mind reading, etc. as so many are doing.
5 posted on 10/26/2003 2:23:50 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; ..
So this article, assuming it is accurate, justifies her death by starvation?
6 posted on 10/26/2003 2:24:04 PM PST by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: RLK
May I see the physician's blood tests and diagnosis of this?

Sorry, I'm going to keep these to myself.

7 posted on 10/26/2003 2:25:29 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
NAL, you ol' wretch, long see, no time - or something like that. :)

The singer, Karen Carpenter, had a bad eating disrorder and not just bulimia. In her case, I've read that she would even take up to 60 ex-lax at one time to purge herself. It certainly depleted her potassium level, and she died (literally dropped dead) from a completely unexpected heart attack.

Still, Terri's rigid neck, and reports of various fractures can't be reasoned away.

8 posted on 10/26/2003 2:25:39 PM PST by xJones
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So this article, assuming it is accurate, justifies her death by starvation?

That's a separate issue. But maybe it should slow down some of the wild speculation about how she came to be in her current condition.

OTOH, I'm sure that most of those doing such speculation will just ignore it.

9 posted on 10/26/2003 2:28:20 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: xJones
Hi

As to the neck, etc., I've seen insufficient posts here on that to make a judgement on that (other than those that seem to be wild speculation).

E.g., one doctor makes speculative comments without seeing/examining her, and all of a sudden many here begin to talk about 10-12 doctors, "all the other doctors", etc. who "swear" that she was abused and strangled.

In short, the sickening unfair non-objective attitudes here on this subject got my attention recently.

10 posted on 10/26/2003 2:33:27 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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NAL, I too have been really troubled by the wild specualtion, accusation and rumor mongering that has occured on these Terri threads.

I have been asking for information and asking some tough questions about some of the ethical and legal questions regarding this case and have been labeled a troll, idiot, anti-life, pro-euthanasia lunatic.

Of course the facts presented in this article do not justify the unethical and immoral actions of others. However, it does shed some light on what may have been a cause of this woman's current condition. Thanks for the post.

11 posted on 10/26/2003 2:34:12 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Normally a Lurker
I see nothing here that adds anything concrete to how she ended up in her current condition. Your post is about lifestyle issues. Everyone involved agrees that her current condition happened catastrophically, not over a long period of time.
12 posted on 10/26/2003 2:38:09 PM PST by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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I have been asking for information and asking some tough questions about some of the ethical and legal questions regarding this case and have been labeled a troll, idiot, anti-life, pro-euthanasia lunatic.

Yeah, I've noticed that most of the old-time freepers, who seemed to be more objective, logical, etc, have avoided these threads like the plague.

Ironic, but it appears that the few old-timers that have entered them have generally been called "newbie trolls".

13 posted on 10/26/2003 2:40:23 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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There are some here that do not want to really exam the truth in this case. Kind of like that old saying, "don't let the facts get in the way of a good story." It is human nature to try to demonize those that seem to be in opposition to us and beatify those that epitomize our cause.

I heard that this doctor who claims that Schiavo strangled his wife has been disciplined by the licensing authorities of the State of Florida. Any articles or sources that you know of that would confirm or deny this?

14 posted on 10/26/2003 2:41:13 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Normally a Lurker
Seems like someone is feeding the press information to slander Terri and one wonders where they supposedly obtained medical information on her since this is supposed to be sealed via Michael.
15 posted on 10/26/2003 2:43:13 PM PST by PeyersPatches
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To: narses
WOW. I didn't realize that "everyone involved agrees" on this subject.

Sorry that I've apparently wasted your time on this non-controversial matter. Please forgive me.

16 posted on 10/26/2003 2:43:37 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: PeyersPatches
Seems like someone is feeding the press information to slander Terri and one wonders where they supposedly obtained medical information on her since this is supposed to be sealed via Michael.

According to the article, much of the information came from "her family" - about her habits, etc. before she met her husband. Do you really think that they were trying to slander her?

17 posted on 10/26/2003 2:46:14 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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First, thanks for the post. Second, I have seen no one argue that she is the victim of some chronic issue. If that is what you or this article are claiming it is new to me. Third, even if every item in this article is true (and that would be a rare thing in any case), it does not explain Michael's conduct on issues like his lack of treatment or his desire for immediate cremation.
18 posted on 10/26/2003 2:46:57 PM PST by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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This is more than about a life-style choice. There have been wild accusations that MS attempts at strangulation is responsible for her being in her current condition. This article offers an alternative explanation. A devastating coronary with a prolonged period in which the brain was denied oxygen could definitely account for her condition. Are you afraid of something that might challenge the "politically correct" view of this case
19 posted on 10/26/2003 2:48:18 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: PeyersPatches
Is it not also possible that someone is supplying misinformation to slander MS? It is not beyond the realm of possibility that someone may have ginned up accusations against him to demonize him and beatify his wife. I say be very suspicious of the sources you rely on for anything in a case like this.
20 posted on 10/26/2003 2:54:16 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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