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Bush And Fox Make "No Progress" On Migration Accord (Yes!)
AP | AP

Posted on 10/20/2003 10:26:22 AM PDT by Pubbie

President Bush sought Monday to repair relations with Mexico, asking President Vicente Fox to set aside disputes over immigration and Iraq.

Bush called Fox last week ahead of their meeting at an economic conference here to tell him he was eager to meet. At the summit, the presidents discussed immigration, trade and Iraq reconstruction, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice said.

She reported no progress on a migration pact, and no timetable emerged.

"They would rather get this issue right, rather than try to move it quickly," she said.

Mexico wants to bring a measure of legality to the 4 million or more undocumented Mexicans (search) living in the United States. The Bush administration set aside such initiatives in its efforts to tighten borders after Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

The relationship was strained further when Fox canceled a visit to Bush's ranch last year to protest the execution in Texas of a man Fox said was a Mexican national. And Mexico refused to back an Iraq war resolution before the United Nations in March.

The two leaders discussed the same thorny issues at the same summit last year in Cabo San Lucas (search), Mexico. Then, too, they emerged without making any headway, nor did they produce a timetable.

Monday, the two had a "relaxed and really warm discussion, and they're looking forward to meeting again," Rice said.

Bush thanked Fox for Mexico's vote as part of the unanimous approval last week of a U.N. Security Council resolution urging all U.N. nations to help rebuild Iraq.

The two leaders also discussed the North American Free Trade Agreement (search), she said.

"President Fox has been very concerned, as everyone knows, about the fact that there is not an equal distribution of the benefits of NAFTA throughout Mexico, and how to improve the competitiveness of North America in the world trading system," she said.

Bush's sought to put past differences behind them, telling Fox on the phone, "What happened has happened," Rice said. It was a message similar to the one Bush gave German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder last month, when he told Schroeder, another opponent of the Iraq war, "We have had differences and they are over."

But Mexico's top diplomat suggested earlier this month they are not, from his country's perspective, over.

"No state can impose on another its own security agenda, nor the order of its priorities," said Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez.


TOPICS: Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: borders; fox; immigrantlist; immigration; vicentefox
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"At the summit, the presidents discussed immigration, trade and Iraq reconstruction, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice said.

She reported no progress on a migration pact, and no timetable emerged.

"They would rather get this issue right, rather than try to move it quickly," she said."

My hope is that Bush doesn't do anything to make the Illegal Immigration issue worse between now and 2008.

After 2008, I hope then President Bill Owens finally closes the border and starts deporting illegal immigrants...

1 posted on 10/20/2003 10:26:22 AM PDT by Pubbie
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To: Pubbie
Link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100606,00.html
2 posted on 10/20/2003 10:26:50 AM PDT by Pubbie (Vote "No" On Recall, "Yes" On Bustamante)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx
Ping!
3 posted on 10/20/2003 10:29:05 AM PDT by Ches
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
4 posted on 10/20/2003 10:45:06 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Pubbie
When will Bush realize that Mexico intends a demographic war for control of the West?

They have no intention of reciprocity for an open border; it's a one-way deal.
5 posted on 10/20/2003 11:02:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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To: Carry_Okie
It seems Fox is still in dog-house with Bush.

Hopefully that prevents Karlos Rova from making the Immigration situation any worse than it already is.
6 posted on 10/20/2003 11:06:22 AM PDT by Pubbie (Vote "No" On Recall, "Yes" On Bustamante)
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To: gubamyster; JustPiper; FITZ; Pubbie; madfly; Joe Hadenuf; Sabertooth; dennisw
I wonder if Rice, the AP or Bush would mislead the American people?

Look at the real story in the Mexican newspaper today.

http://www.cronica.com.mx/nota.php?idc=90136

I don't read spanish that well, but it looks like V.Fox has a reunion with Bush November 6 in Crawford Texas and then on November 12 at the blanco casa in Washington D.C.

I have been saying all along that this meeting would take place in November as I read this article and some other articles in the Mexican newspaper in May. Poppa Bush set this meeting in May not long after Fox slapped Bush and the American people in the face at the UN. If you want to know anything about illegal immigration always go to the Mexican newspapers.

http://www.cronica.com.mx/nota.php?idc=64563

7 posted on 10/20/2003 11:08:39 AM PDT by texastoo
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To: Pubbie
I hope they continue to make "no progress." More gridlock is a good thing.
8 posted on 10/20/2003 11:26:16 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: Pubbie
"No state can impose on another its own security agenda, nor the order of its priorities," said Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez.

Man, this guy has been hitting the UN water cooler way too much. Well, he probably has a job waiting in the U.S. Sate Department if he wants it.

9 posted on 10/20/2003 11:32:43 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Pubbie
It would seem that Bush wants something in return for an amnesty. It wouldn't be an open invitation to his globo-buddies to loot Mexican resources, would it?
10 posted on 10/20/2003 11:33:41 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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To: Carry_Okie
"It wouldn't be an open invitation to his globo-buddies to loot Mexican resources, would it?"

Fox will never agree to it - it would piss off HIS Globo-buddies to let Americans own Mexican assets.
11 posted on 10/20/2003 11:36:23 AM PDT by Pubbie (Vote "No" On Recall, "Yes" On Bustamante)
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To: Pubbie
"No state can impose on another its own security agenda, nor the order of its priorities," said Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez.

A brilliant observation, Luis. Remember that when you are trying to demand that we forget the fact that some significant percentage of YOUR COUNTRY'S population is living illegally within our borders.

12 posted on 10/20/2003 12:16:55 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Pubbie
Amazing how Mexico keeps demanding rights for their citizens in the US, but denies the same rights for Central Americans who sneak into Mexico.
13 posted on 10/20/2003 12:39:10 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Carry_Okie
It wouldn't be an open invitation to his globo-buddies to loot Mexican resources, would it?

It'd sure be easy enough ---- a few boy scout troops could go in and conquer Mexico now ---- all their working age (and fighting age) men are in the USA. The sons of the elites still in Mexico aren't about to fight. Mexico isn't even being smart ---- they've got all that oil just sitting there and they aren't doing much with it.

14 posted on 10/20/2003 12:44:42 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: gubamyster
Despite the 'progress report' it appears that fresh deals are in the offing. I won't get too excited about any bumps along the road to Aztlan.
15 posted on 10/20/2003 1:27:49 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: truthkeeper
Favors our "best friend" the "center-right" politician Vicente Fox has done for the U.S. "in exchange" for an amnetsy deal:

1) Underminded our efforts on the war on terrorism
2) Attacked the war on Iraq and sought to veto it in the security council
3) Made sure to come here in person to protest the RIGHTFUL exectution of undeniably gulity scumbag murderers.
4) Heaped praise on commie dictator Fidel Castro and made visits to "aid" him behind our back (Mexico's one of only two Latin American countries still supporting this jerk, BTW)
5) Demanded free college for illegals
6) Demanded free health care for illegals
7)Demanded free driver's licenses for illegals
8) Forced the U.S. to accept Mexican Conselete cards as "ID" when the states weren't passing out free driver's licenses quick enough for him.
9) Never paid us back for that billion dollar "loan" we gave Mexico to bail out their crappy Peso a few years back
10) Never paid us back for NAFTA
11) Supported UN global efforts for "gun control" to disarm law-abiding citizens around the world
12) Meet with Bill Clinton behind Dubya's back
13) Never threw corrupt PRI officials in jail or even indicted them
14) Promoted the likes of Gray Davis, George Ryan, Bill Richardson, etc. as American role-models
15) Blasted the new U.S. repatriation strategy
16) "Boycotted" trip to Texas to protest YET MORE executions (yes, stay home, Vicente)
17) Refused to hand over known terrorists hiding out in Mexcio
18) Never bothered to send troops to assist in the war on terrorism, but did keep a database of U.S. troops of "Mexican decent" and encouraged them to support the Mexican POV
19) Refused to support pro-Israel resolution or any other U.S. backed resolution to the world community
20) Will not talk about anything OTHER than amnesty (the Communist-party member he appointed as Foreign Minister demanded "the whole enchalatia") whenever Bush invites him to the ranch/white house/air force one/presidential trip to wine and dine the guy at taxpayers expense.

Gee, with such a selfless, concitary, and helpful attitude like that, I wonder why Bush can't work out an "migration deal" with the guy. < /sarcasm>

Be sure to remind Dubya just how helpful his "best friend" has been for the last THREE YEARS.

16 posted on 10/20/2003 1:55:57 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; CheneyChick; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...
Thanx and ping!
17 posted on 10/20/2003 2:11:55 PM PDT by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: texastoo
"No state can impose on another its own security agenda, nor the order of its priorities," said Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez.

Why doesn't 'our' President feel this way?!

18 posted on 10/20/2003 2:13:21 PM PDT by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: JustPiper
Why doesn't 'our' President feel this way?!

Unfortunately, President Bush is pandering to get the Hispanic vote in 04'. After that, I hope he takes illegal immigration more seriously. I believe that any more concessions for Illegals before the election will result in a major revolt against Bush within the Republican core.
19 posted on 10/20/2003 2:21:25 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Pubbie; gubamyster; JustPiper




"They would rather get this issue right, rather than try to move it quickly," [Rice] said.

"Right" after the election.


20 posted on 10/20/2003 2:51:50 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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