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To: 556x45
Bought into the whole homeschooling agenda and homeschooled our oldest child through the end of 3rd grade, via the Abeka system, and participating diligently in cottage school twice a week. Started younger two into homeschooling as well.

Learned that the vast majority of our homeschooling peers in that group were tinfoilers and conspiracy theorists, nor were they well read or well traveled - plus, they had ugly work and business practices. Got concerned when it became apparent through Sunday School at our own church that our oldest was falling behind in academic skills compared to her peers. Moved to an outlying area with award winning schools, bit the bullet, and sent her there. Busted our butts for months just to bring that child up to the level of her classmates in basic reading, writing and mathematic skills outside the rote memorization of the multiplication tables, spelling and state capitols (you know, the big homeschool sales pitch).

16 posted on 10/16/2003 6:03:26 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
our oldest was falling behind in academic skills compared to her peers.

Can you explain to me how that's anyone's responsibility except her parents' ?

18 posted on 10/16/2003 6:12:33 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
If you favor legal abortion, you are not going to fit into the homeschooling crowd. That may have been your problem.

Busted our butts for months just to bring that child up to the level of her classmates in basic reading, writing and mathematic skills outside the rote memorization of the multiplication tables, spelling and state capitols (you know, the big homeschool sales pitch).

There are hundreds of different curricula from which to choose. You should have busted your but when it came to choosing one. The fact that you busted your but bringing "that child up to the level of her classmates in basic reading, writing and mathematic skills" shows that you can educate you child at home when given the proper resources.

My young children are two to three grade levels ahead in reading, writing and math. Your homeschooling flop seems to be an exception to the rule.

23 posted on 10/16/2003 6:24:34 AM PDT by Diago
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Sure, running out twice a week to do something called "cottage school" means, you were not home to "HOMESCHOOL"

The key here being you have to be HOME to SCHOOL. So that left you 3 days at home to school the children, no wonder they fell behind, I bet they did not get to complete their ABeka work in the little time alloted.

I don't use ABeka, because of religious differences with the program, but I have seen their books, and they are challenging to say the least.

Your description of the other homeschool parents is pathetic. I have homeschooled in 2 states now, I got started homeschooling in WV, I met lots of parents that were not read or well traveled, not being well read and well traveled does not mean that a parent can't want better for their kids.

What you socialize with parents who are beneath you in terms of travel and reading so you can be snotty about it?

26 posted on 10/16/2003 6:32:15 AM PDT by Smocker
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Moved to an outlying area with award winning schools, bit the bullet, and sent her there. Busted our butts for months just to bring that child up to the level of her classmates in basic reading, writing and mathematic skills outside the rote memorization of the multiplication tables, spelling and state capitols (you know, the big homeschool sales pitch).

You used Abeka and you had to do that????? Right. When I moved 2 children from public school to private that used Abeka, mine were 1 to 2 years behind in math and reading. I had to spend the summer trying to catch them up so that they were not held a grade back. That must have been one amazing public school.

43 posted on 10/16/2003 7:28:36 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
BLUF - You seem to be painting with a very broad brush in all of your comments. Parents, whether they are home schooling or use private or the public schools are held to be responsible for the education of their children. Looks like you failed somewhere and decided to throw stones. Maybe a peep in the mirror some morning would reveal who is ultimately responsible for your failures.

Learned that the vast majority of our homeschooling peers in that group were tinfoilers and conspiracy theorists, nor were they well read or well traveled - plus, they had ugly work and business practices.

Well read or well traveled? I have been in all but 6 of the 50 states and in over 12 foreign countries. Mrs SLB has traveled to all but 12 states and has visited 9 foreign countries. As far as reading goes, we read as a family and individually. Our two youngest children just finished reading the Odyssey and are now well into King Arthur. They read Ivanhoe last spring. None of the editions they read are abridged, they read the “real McCoy.” I do admit I fail to spend enough time reading God's Word, but try to make it through the Bible both to myself and as a family at least annually.

Got concerned when it became apparent through Sunday School at our own church that our oldest was falling behind in academic skills compared to her peers. Moved to an outlying area with award winning schools, bit the bullet, and sent her there. Busted our butts for months just to bring that child up to the level of her classmates in basic reading, writing and mathematic skills outside the rote memorization of the multiplication tables, spelling and state capitols (you know, the big homeschool sales pitch).

I have to ask, why did you bust your butts for public schools but not for home school? Was there a lack of motivation at home that was obvious once she went to public school?

We were lucky that we went to a church where none of the other kids were being homeschooled, because we'd have never noticed the problem.

I would guess you also have a large youth group at the church. I wonder why Christ never had a youth group? I wonder why He did not segregate the children from the adults in any of his teachings?

Did I mention what I began to notice about those kids who were "graduates"? The girls all aspired to become day care workers, but didn't like to wake up, the boys all aspired to be "internet entrepeneurs" and didn't like the notion of waking up and spending time learning any trade.

Our oldest daughter who was home schooled is now a college senior at Georgetown College here in Kentucky. She has a 4.0 GPA and spent the last semester of her Junior year as an exchange student at Regents Park College a part of Oxford University where she was also a 4.0 student.

We recently had to have a new circuit wired for additional electrical use. The electrician we called was a 22 year old state certified electrican who happens to have been home schooled. He designed and built a bar code inventory system for a local Apiary Supply Company before he was 18, but rather than spend all of his time messing with computers (he builds them as a hobby) he would rather get his hands a little dirty by working as an electrician.

Bottom line, you seem to be talking some sour grapes here in your posts. As I said in the Bottom Line Up Front (BLUF) you need to look in the mirror to see where your problem lies.

48 posted on 10/16/2003 9:07:44 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Wow. That is a pretty brave admission. Your kids are far behind and you are their teacher....that must have been a really uncomfortable parent teacher conference. I guess it is true what they say, it all depends on the teacher. Thankfully my kids are way AHEAD of their peers, have more activities and friends than I can keep up with and have two awesome teachers to thank for guiding them.......me and my husband. I think you made a good choice to stop homeschooling if you weren't good at it.
56 posted on 10/17/2003 4:01:18 PM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Al Franken is a pimple on the butt of liberalism)
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