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Army War College: Clark/Kosovo Air Campaign
Army War College, Parameters, Spring 2000, pp. 13-29. ^ | May 2000 | TIMOTHY L. THOMAS

Posted on 10/15/2003 12:14:38 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE

Following is quoted the middle of the entire report.

Note: Detailed planning for the Kosovo campaign was ordered by Clinton in Mid-1998, the campaign itself started in March 1999, immediately after Clinton's impeachment, and slightly before Hillary began her NY Senate campaign.

Reference numbers in the text are to footnotes in the orginal Army War College report.

The Views of General Wesley Clark, Supreme Allied Commander, NATO

It is important to note that this analysis is simply an attempt to express the concern generated by sets of figures that do not correspond to one another. It is not an attempt to cast doubt on General Wesley Clark, who has received far less credit than he deserves for keeping the alliance together during the conflict. General Clark does not count tanks; he relies on figures provided by others. It is fair to examine the figures he is being provided, however, and to consider how he chose to use them.

On 12 July, one month after the end of the bombing, the Navy Times discussed General Clark's testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee. Relying on information provided by his staff, Clark stated that reports about NATO warplanes striking decoys and failing to destroy tanks and personnel carriers was a concerted disinformation campaign. Rather, he chose to underscore the virtual invulnerability of NATO aircraft and the fact that Kosovo set a new standard for warfare. He did not mention that there was no air force flying against NATO, nor that the 15,000-foot limitation was set to ensure there would be no damage to NATO's "virtually invulnerable" fleet. Battle damage assessment, according to Clark, included the destruction of 110 Serb tanks, 210 armored personnel carriers, and 449 guns and mortars. He also noted that NATO was aware the Serbs were using decoys and were able to recognize them. Department of Defense estimates of battle damage were slightly higher than Clark's estimates (120 tanks, 220 armored personnel carriers, and 450 artillery pieces).[14]

Clark later offered a reason why the battle damage may not have been as high as initially expected--there was a spy within NATO giving targets away to Belgrade. The Pacific Stars and Stripes quotes Clark on 13 August as saying the leak "was as clear as the nose on your face."[15] That is certainly one form of asymmetric offset to information superiority, and again it involves the human dimension. Even with complete information superiority, one can't destroy the target if the enemy knows an attack is coming and simply moves it or replaces it with a dummy target. NATO officials were reportedly tipped off that a spy might be among them by the fact that certain targets appeared to be vacated after appearing on target lists but before NATO planes attacked.

In September, a Pentagon review of the war was delayed by one month in order to fill in gaps in the number of armored vehicles and artillery batteries actually destroyed. One report noted that General Clark told a Pentagon officer that analysts verified only some 70 percent of the reported hits. Clark then ordered the US European Command to prepare a new estimate as well.[16] In a later report, Clark lowered his battle damage assessment, noting that in all likelihood only 93 tanks and 153 armored personnel carriers were destroyed.[17] The difference--17 tanks and 57 armored personnel carriers--is close to two reinforced infantry battalions. That obviously would be an extremely significant difference to a ground commander preparing for an attack. Accurate damage assessments are crucial to a ground commander's maneuver requirements.

Even with total information superiority, it was not possible to verify battle damage with any accuracy some two months after the conflict ended, despite having NATO forces on the ground and overhead coverage of departing Serb vehicles. Since DOD and NATO still have not produced a compatible set of figures to this day, there clearly is a faulty methodology or other problem here as well. All of these hits were cockpit recorded and many were shown on TV. There should be near compatibility between NATO and Pentagon findings in the age of information superiority.

The British Press and Other Reporters on Battle Damage Assessment

Independent accounts from reporters covering the battle for Kosovo offered an entirely different set of battle damage statistics from those offered by either General Clark or the Pentagon. Their perspective is interesting for it is offered from firsthand, on-the-ground analysis, just like the latter NATO and Pentagon estimates.

The first newspaper reports on battle damage appeared at the end of June. Indications were that only 13 Serb tanks and fewer than 100 armored personnel carriers had been destroyed. Reporters noted the ruins of many different types of decoys hit by NATO forces (e.g., rusted tanks with broken parts, wood or canvas mock-ups). Carlotta Gall of The New York Times, a veteran war correspondent from the first Russian war in Chechnya, saw little damage. Newsweek reporter Mark Dennis found only one destroyed tank after driving around Kosovo for ten days. Did the Serbs manage to extricate all of their destroyed vehicles during their publicly filmed withdrawal, did they hide them, or did they really experience much less damage than NATO sources declared?

In late July, Aviation Week and Space Technology reported that NATO had dropped 3,000 precision-guided weapons that resulted in 500 hits on decoys, but destroyed only 50 Yugoslav tanks. Deputy Defense Secretary John Hamre also reported that all 30 (other sources use the figure 20) incidents of collateral damage would be studied (the trains, convoys, schools, hospitals, and Bulgarian strikes).[18] What types of bombs actually hit the decoys is known only by Pentagon insiders, so they are the only ones capable of calculating the amount of money wasted on these targets. This is an important issue, however, because early in the war NATO and US stocks of precision weaponry ran very low, a fact that undoubtedly was noted and highlighted by other nations with hostile intent toward the alliance. They received a yardstick measurement of how long an air campaign can proceed using certain types of high-tech armaments against specific targets before stocks run low.

U.S. News and World Report, in its 20 September 1999 edition, stated that a NATO team visited 900 "aim points" targeted by NATO in Kosovo and found only 26 tank and similar-looking self-propelled-artillery carcasses. This would again throw NATO's revised number of 93 tanks out the window. However, how many tank carcasses were in Serbia, where the NATO team did not visit, is not known, making this figure less provocative and contradictory than it originally appears. The article also reported increased friction between General Clark and his NATO air operations chief, Lieutenant General Michael Short, over target selection and strategy (mobile targets such as tanks versus infrastructure, respectively). The article concluded that it was not air power but Russia's withdrawal of support for Serbia that probably brought an end to the air war in Kosovo. The article noted that in future conflicts, the most merciful way to end them may be to conduct them swiftly and violently instead of by the trial-and-error, phased approach used in Kosovo.[19]

Finally, several British officers, both retired and serving, also noted that damage was much less than originally stated. One newspaper report, citing British Ministry of Defense sources, stated that the damage done to tanks was perhaps even less than the lowest quoted figure of 13 tank kills.[20] But the most damning comment could prove to be from an International Herald Tribune article on 1 October. Written by Frederick Bonnart, the editorial director of the independent but highly authoritative NATO's Nations, the article discusses how NATO "propaganda" was used against the West. He notes:

In democracies, it is the duty of the public services to present the truth even in wartime, and particularly when they are in sole control of the information. If it is deliberately designed to engender fear and hate, then the correct term is propaganda.[21]

In particular, Bonnart believes the armored vehicle totals did not properly represent the vehicles actually destroyed, and that NATO deliberately used the West's reputation for truth and fairness to carry out a highly charged information policy against the Serbs. This made NATO's information policy rife with propaganda, Bonnart contends, and he points out that recommendations are being prepared to create a future NATO crisis information organization to keep this from happening again.[22] When did we ever think that a NATO-oriented publication's editor would be publicly accusing SACEUR's organization of propaganda and disinformation?

Assessing the Results of Information Superiority

One danger of the air campaign over Yugoslavia is overestimating NATO and US capabilities. All of the systems did not function all of the time with perfection. For example, some of the high-tech systems were unable to operate under poor weather conditions, as underscored in the daily Pentagon briefings during the campaign. Certainly it was an exaggeration to say:

A vast number of intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance systems allowed for the rapid collection and collating into a single system the vital battlefield intelligence that we sent to our shooters. Taken together, all these innovations allowed our pilots to hit any target, any time, day or night, in any weather, accurate to within a few feet.[23]

Secretary of Defense William Cohen, in a November speech in California, listed several extremely important qualifiers regarding capabilities. He noted that even the most advanced technologies have limits and that a precision-guided weapon can only hit the coordinates it is given. Moreover, "our vast intelligence system can create such a haystack of data that finding the one needle that will pinpoint a target in the right time frame is difficult, indeed."[24]

Hitting the right target on time requires sorting out the right coordinates from a pile of information (interpreted correctly) at the right time, a degree of data management that is difficult to achieve. Yet that, most believe, is just what information superiority was designed to do. It is clear from the Secretary's comments that much work remains. His "technologies have limits" qualifier requires our attention. This is perhaps a recognition that our systems still cannot, as evidenced by Kosovo, determine if a target is a fake, and this in an environment where we were not confronted by opposing information technology systems to disrupt friendly systems. As a result, NATO and the United States lost untold resources each time we expended ordinance on impostor targets.

Does a count of destroyed tanks matter? When counts are off by such a margin, they do. A comparison of these figures causes the average American to shake his head in confusion and frustration. Worse yet, these figures affect American lives. The interpretation of data by analysts at the lowest level also directly affects the credibility of our leaders and commanders who must stand before service members and the American public to relate the data. The problem is analogous to that encountered with counting SCUD missiles during Desert Storm. Coalition assets often hit gas or trailer trucks instead of missile launch vehicles for the same reasons. We haven't corrected this problem, and maybe it is simply beyond our ability to do so with current technologies. But we must face up to our shortcomings if we want to do better. Concern over battle damage assessment is not analogous to the Vietnam era's "body count" fixation, as some try to imply. Rather, the battle damage assessment debate is over just how much of our battlespace awareness was manipulated, and that does matter.

Another problem with disputes over battle damage assessment in Kosovo is that focusing on that aspect loses sight of the actual war that Milosevic fought (and not the template war that NATO assumed he would fight). Milosevic's real war was the ethnic cleansing offensive against the Albanian civilian population of Kosovo. Milosevic had two objectives. The first one was immediate, to rob the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) of its medium of support. The second objective was the campaign against NATO's center of gravity, its political stability. Milosevic confronted the United States and its allies with the grave risk of expanding instability throughout the "target" countries of Albania and Macedonia, and extending into the entire Balkan region. His instrument in this campaign was primarily paramilitary and police formations which left little information signature. This made targeting armored vehicles and artillery systems largely irrelevant to countering Milosevic's offensive. Additionally, targeting the Yugoslav infrastructure offered only protracted operations with significant economic damage to all of southern Europe, whereas the refugee problem was immediate and catastrophic. Milosevic proved he was a master at playing chess while his NATO counterparts played poker.[25] This made General Clark and General Short's arguments over targeting at best tangential to the war Milosevic was imposing on his opponent.

(Excerpt) Read more at carlisle-www.army.mil ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; bombing; clark; clinton; decoys; fakes; highaltitude; hillaryclinton; kosovo; nato; saceur; senatecampaign; serbia; usaf; wesleyclark; wesleykanne
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Funny.

The national press corpse is promoting Clark based on his "stunningly" successful use of NATO against the infrastructure and innocent civilians in Kosovo/Serbia.

Hillary used the Kosovo campaign to show "she cares" about the downtrodden innocents (artfully using her TV cameras to link the refugee trains to the Nazi extermination trains in WWII as she looked for liberal/Jewish votes in New York.

Bill Clinton artfully used the Kosovo campaign to avoid GOP criticism after impeachment, to link "patriotism" & "our boys are at war" to HIS legacy in the hearts of the average American.

Clark is now using the Kosovo campaign as HIS sole justification for his campaign for the White House.

The Soviet Union is (justifiably!) using the Kosovo campaign against an "innocent" Slavic people to "prove" that NATO was an agressive force that was ALWAYS directly aimed at invading Russia in the Cold War.

(But the only reason NATO was dragged in was because Clinton?Clinton/Albright COULDN'T get the UN to provide diplomatic cover. We had direct control over NATO through the military (Clark) and they (Germany/Belgium/Spain/Italy/Norway/etc.) couldn't argue.)

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And yet after diligent searching four years later, Clinton/Clark's "safe" high-altitude bombing can't even be proven to have destroyed 13/20/30/300/500 (choose which report you want to believe!) enemy tanks.

The rest (trucks, AA guns, artillary, and storage) all seem to have been fakes...

Even now, the region is only getting 3-4 hours of intermitant electrictiy a day. (Iraq - only months after the war - is far more successful at restoring normal power and water!)

But the press wants Clark/Clinton/Clinton/Albright to be successful. They won't report/publicize "this" information.

1 posted on 10/15/2003 12:14:38 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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Thank you Freepers!

2 posted on 10/15/2003 12:15:00 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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This is from one of the orignal sources for th einformation tha tClark's "air campaign" was merely a spectacularly expensive failure.

There is even more damning info in the entire Army War College article.

Significantly, this impartial report using international sources was written long before Clark started his press campaign for president!
3 posted on 10/15/2003 12:17:47 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
only 93 tanks and 153 armored personnel carriers were destroyed

And in end it something like 7 tank and 13 carriers.
Whoops.

4 posted on 10/15/2003 12:25:40 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
The article concluded that it was not air power but Russia's withdrawal of support for Serbia that probably brought an end to the air war in Kosovo. The article noted that in future conflicts, the most merciful way to end them may be to conduct them swiftly and violently instead of by the trial-and-error, phased approach used in Kosovo.[

Main part of article is what really ended this. As for ground war in Serbia...Serb would bury a couple NATO division...just ask Wehremacht, it loose 750,000 KIA/WIA/MIA in Serbia in 4 years.

5 posted on 10/15/2003 12:30:38 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
You know, we STILL don't know how many were actually killed (and by which sides!) in the "ethinic cleaning" that was the sole justification for NATO to attack.

We know absolutely that the initial "hundreds of thousands" of refugees (which became "bodies killed" in the media) is/was false ...

Now, they can't even find evidence of any of the smaller murder sites.

There were murders - absolutely. But we don't know how many, where, and by who.

We don't know when the people were murdered, nor where the bodies now lie.

6 posted on 10/15/2003 12:35:15 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
The Soviet Union is (justifiably!) using the Kosovo campaign against an "innocent" Slavic people to "prove" that NATO was an agressive force that was ALWAYS directly aimed at invading Russia in the Cold War.

Ummm, news flash 13 year in coming...Soviet Union DEAD...I repeat Soviet Union DEAD...lets see if we get it right, ok?

7 posted on 10/15/2003 12:37:49 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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Right.

The Soviet Union is (now) dead.

But in 1919-1921 - Germans were reduced to scrambling in garbage piles to find coal scraps to burn.

13 years later, Hitler had re-created large parts of their Army and Air Force despite the treaty, and was rebuilding their arms industry.

16 years later, beginning from nothing and during the depression, he had them strong enough that England could not effectively oppose his occupation of Sudenland, then C-Slovakia, then eventually Poland.

Don't count out the international socialists in Russia.... yet. Reagan stopped them, but they want power back.
8 posted on 10/15/2003 12:45:29 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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The whole thing was BS, the Serbs were only trying to defend their country from Albanian outlaws. The toon used this to cover his sorry a##, and the socalists in the EU went along with it.

You don't win wars by bombing from 15,000 feet, as anyone who has been in one can testify. The Russkis are the only ones that didn't come out of this smelling like merde, and that was only by a margin.

9 posted on 10/15/2003 12:55:59 PM PDT by Little Bill ("Grab them by the throat and them kick them in the Butt."...Patton)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
read later
10 posted on 10/15/2003 12:56:07 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Communist party official card holders 500,000 strong, that less then half one percent population. They in frenzy of joy when 18K peoples sign up this year. Also Russia 6th largest economy of G-8 (in front Italy, Canada) and grow faster then other G-8 combined. No "Hitler" come to Russia.
11 posted on 10/15/2003 2:28:47 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
BDA is always exceptionally difficult to assess. . .especially when you have different people doing the assessment and using different criteria.

Clark was right in only one aspect: The French actively worked against us (leaked ATO).

Clark allowed 16 nations tinker with the ATO, thereby rendering it's synergistic effect non-effective. Strategic air campaign planning is an art and a science, and involves thousands of planners as they assess target lists and identify strategic Centers of Gravity (COG). In addition, when you have something like Kosovo, finding meaningful COGs is hard, but doable. However, Clark allowed 16 different screwdrivers, wielded by 16 different nations, to tinker with the air power engine. Not good.

As far as BDA, there are many ways to measure it.

If a tank is hit and can't move, it is a "M-Kill." M-Kills mean the thing can still shoot, but as a tank, it is no more, nothing but stationary artillery.

If the tank has its turret hit, it is an F-Kill, meaning it can move but not shoot. O

f course, then there is the K-Kill, catastrophic destruction.

So, is an F-Kill a "kill?" Yes and no, depending upon who is doing the asking.

Another factor to consider is the "B-Kill."

A B-Kill is a "Beltway-Kill." What qualifies as a kill inside the Beltway usually makes no sense and is in excess of what a kill actually is. For example, a SAM site is peppered through with shrapnel and the radar and electronics shot to heck, but the structure still stands. For everyone this would be a kill. However, for the Beltway types this is not a kill, as it still "stands." Also if a tank is hit by a, say, Maverick missile, and is a burning hulk, it is a kill for all except for the Beltway types. The Beltway types want the turret off the chassis before they will call it a kill.

You get the idea.

Oh, Clark is an idiot.

Clark asked for a specific number of targets, not a desired effect. This in and of it tells you he knows nothing but attrition warfare and wasted time, money, material and men.

Oh, did I say Clark is an idiot?

He is.
12 posted on 10/15/2003 3:23:51 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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In this case, the BDA investigators could get to each of the target spots directly: they knew what was targettted and where the bomb (should have) landed.

GPS is a many splendored thing .... and the remote targetted weapons had an explicit target for those expensive weapons.

So they could look at just about every hole ...... and only found 13 destroyed tanks. No evidence of tanks being dragged out of the hole and repaired either.

Only 13 tanks can be confirmed killed. That's all. The rest were never there.

See the other Kosovo thread today on more explicit cover-up details.
13 posted on 10/15/2003 4:55:11 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Gunrunner2
Here, Newsweek reports the actual damage; but, then again, that was before Clark had to be "presented" by the national media as a "national hero" and "tremendous general" of a "tremendously successful" air campaign.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1001752/posts

14 posted on 10/15/2003 4:58:15 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Gunrunner2
What country you sell to?
15 posted on 10/15/2003 5:17:55 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Near as I can tell, Clark was in charge of "military strategic planning" for the Joint Chiefs in August 1995 when the Croatian Army, with co-ordinated NATO/US close air support and fighter cover, ethnically cleansed 100,000 Serbs from enclaves in Croatia.

Wall St. investment banks got $22 billion from the Socialist Security Slush Fund as a result of Balkan co-operation (debt relief) with Clark and the Clinton Adminstration in the Kosovo campaign. The same Wall St. investment banks that employed Clark after his retirement from the military. The same Wall St. banks that pump millions into his, Bill, and Hillary's campaigns. Kosovo was a "blood for debt relief" war.
16 posted on 10/15/2003 6:10:07 PM PDT by yoswif
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To: RussianConservative
This is what happens when people vote Democrat.
17 posted on 10/15/2003 6:26:05 PM PDT by Pubbie (Vote "No" On Recall, "Yes" On Bustamante)
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To: RussianConservative
I do not do business over the internet
18 posted on 10/15/2003 7:16:48 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Funny how Gulf War I and Gulf War II air campaigns were successful, but yet the Kosovo campaign was not.

Difference?

Clark did not understand strategic air power.

As Dr. Schlesinger, Former US Secretary of Defense, said, “Airpower is no longer ancillary to ground war, it too can destroy enemy ground forces.”

I'd add the caveat that this is true IF employed properly. In Kosovo it wasn't used properly and in a dis-jointed manner---and with a LEAKED ATO. (Leaking the ATO gives the bad guys the info they need to avoid attack.)

Clark is an idiot.
19 posted on 10/15/2003 7:25:38 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Gunrunner2
"Funny how Gulf War I and Gulf War II air campaigns were successful, but yet the Kosovo campaign was not.

Rather,

Funny how the media LABELS Clinton/Clinton/Clark's entire Kosovo campaign (initiation, setup, political, logistical, airware, ground (movement & occupation), and (lack of) withdrawal, and restoration) "successful and impressive"

.............

Yet labels W's Gulf War II as "an unsuccessful quamire" only months after its successful offensive.

20 posted on 10/15/2003 9:03:15 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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