Posted on 07/06/2017 10:54:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
No, silly. Leftists don’t want $32 trillion in new taxes. They want around $15 trillion in new taxes over the next decade plus a cool $32 trillion or so in new debt to pay for single-payer, at least if Bernie Sanders’s platform last year is the template. CNN asks upstart Ryan opponent Randy Bryce about that here. You’re a single-payer proponent, they say. What do you think of $32 trillion to socialize medicine? Bryce: Well, ah, a lot of people aren’t paying their fair share of taxes, you know. That’s a sentiment a lot of Americans, including Steve Bannon, share. And they do like single-payer.
But do they like both ideas enough to tolerate $32 trillion in debt and taxes, bearing in mind that that represents about 160 percent of America’s current national debt? I know how I’m betting.....
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That’s the wrong question. Ask them if they want a single auto manufacturer, a single airline, or a single pizza restaurant. Oh and ask them what they think that car, airline, or pizza will look like when the government pays for it as your right of citizenship.
Only an idiot wants single payer. Our medicine in America is the best in the world because someone can get rich with an idea, not because the government provides.
They all say single payer doesn’t mean single provider, but that’s exactly what it means. There might be a different corporate logo on the door, but nobody will be able to offer anything better than anyone else because they all have the same reward system.
All they can do to increase profit is to offer you a little less medial treatment than the competitor.
What a moron - all he has are Democrat platitudes, which are as empty as his head. You can squeeze 100% out of the top 10% and still come nowhere close to what he’s calling for. And what does he mean about being “cost efficient”? When has the government ever cared about cost or being efficient?
Dems, why are you going to run against Ryan? He is a Dem.
"Question for Paul Ryan’s Dem challenger: You want $32 trillion in tax hikes to pay for single-payer?"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
The post-17 Amendment ratification, state sovereignty-ignoring Washington cartel is still stubbornly ignoring major constitutional limits on the federal budget, particularly with respect to unconstitutional federal spending programs like Obamacare.
From related threads …
More specifically, first note that a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from appropriating taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers. This is evidenced by the following excerpt.
”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
In fact, with respect to unconstitutional Obamacare, also note that the corrupt Washington cartel is likewise wrongly ignoring that state sovereignty-respecting justices had also clarified that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Based on the Court’s clarification of Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes, here is a rough approximation of how much taxpayers should be paying Congress annually to perform its Section 8-limited power duties imo.
Given that the plurality of clauses in Section 8 deal with defense, and given that the Department of Defense budget for 2015 was $500+ billion, I will generously round up the $500+ billion figure to $1 trillion (but probably much less) as the annual price tag of the federal government to the taxpayers, not the $5 trillion annual budget that was being projected for the feds before Trump was elected.
In other words, the corrupt media, including Obama guard dog Fx Noise, should not be reporting multi-trillion dollar annual federal budgets in budget discussions without mentioning the Supreme Court’s clarification of Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes.
Patriots need to get Trump up to speed on the idea that a good percentage of the federal taxes that he, his rich friends, and possibly all other taxpayers have been paying throughout their lives are probably unconstitutional.
Patriots need to work with Trump to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes. Then the states will probably find a tsunami of new revenues that they won’t know what to do with, establishing their own healthcare and retirement social spending programs for starters.
Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!
Remember in November ’18 !
Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.
Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.
In fact, if Justice Gorsuch turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.
Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.
While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably haven’t been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.
Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.
Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed above.
MOST Republicans are needed to take him out in the primary. FEWER are needed in the General. They just have to vote Democrat. My primary $$ will be used to take out Flake in Az.
It won’t matter if the Rs don’t REPEAL obamacare.
It’s worth it to elect this single commie to get rid of the TRAITOR.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for Ryan, nor the ‘small govt’ (R) party, to pipe-up re: 47%+ NON-taxpayers either.
Can they still be called the ‘stupid party’ when it’s willful omission? Or just the members, willing to be led by the nose w/ delusions of being the master of their creation? /rhetorical
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