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To: ChessExpert

Good point. Cities such as Baltimore and Chicago, with huge problems among their black populations, have been run by Democrats for generations.

If electing Democrats, and Democrat party policies were the answer to problems in these places, these cities would be shining cities on a hill. They would be glittering examples of beneficial Democrat policies, if those policies really solved the problems of black America.

Maybe off topic, but it gets me how Democrats sometimes bemoan the problems of some big cities, and the very cities they bemoan the fates of, have been run by Democrats for generations. They are, in effect, criticizing member of their own party, but nobody ever calls them out on that.

Some even have the audacity to claim racism in cities with huge black populations, who are governed by duly elected black politicians. Isn’t that by definition a disconnect in logic and reasoning ability???


10 posted on 06/21/2017 7:28:02 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
“Isn’t that by definition a disconnect in logic and reasoning ability???”

It's a common problem. It almost seems as though reasoning is a lost art. The same with persuasion and civil discourse.

I took a course in logic. Probably the most valuable thing I learned were the informal fallacies. They are informal only because they do not pertain to formal, i.e. symbolic, logic. They include the ad hominem attack, the genetic fallacy, and the argument from authority. I hear these often.

Climate change, and before it global warming, is sold primarily through the argument from authority - a known fallacy.

I have to admit to a reasoning problem myself. Trained as an economist, I see benefits to free trade. So I was supportive of NAFTA, because it is called a free trade agreement. In fact it is not a free trade agreement; it is more of a managed or controlled trade agreement. I was fooled by words used, at best mistakenly, at worst dishonestly. I now think of NAFTA as Not A Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). With that revised foundation, I can reason better on the subject.

16 posted on 06/21/2017 9:11:45 PM PDT by ChessExpert (It's not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Maybe off topic, but it gets me how Democrats sometimes bemoan the problems of some big cities, and the very cities they bemoan the fates of, have been run by Democrats for generations.”

Along similar lines, I have heard some Americans criticize America. These critics voted Democrat. Criticisms:
America had slaves.
We mistreated the Indians.
The KKK.
We dropped the atomic bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
The Vietnam war.

In each case, the dominant party was the Democratic party!


22 posted on 06/22/2017 6:13:39 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It's not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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