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Did you catch the part about the Democrats controlling the pollsters?
1 posted on 03/27/2017 11:11:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Obviously something went very, very wrong with the polls in the OH/PA/MI region. We kept getting told Ohio was close, yet Trump won by almost double digits.


2 posted on 03/27/2017 11:16:01 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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““The folks who would talk to a stranger about politics just aren’t representative of people who wouldn’t,” he said.”

Actually, republicans are less likely to talk to a stranger about politics because of the abusive incivility that Dems are so proud to display when others don’t agree with them. Dems are proud of their abusive incivility - they feel they’ve won the culture war by screaming “bigot” when they encounter the market place of ideas. And here they are in this OP, still as clueless as ever. Suits me fine - let them wander in the wilderness...


3 posted on 03/27/2017 11:18:45 PM PDT by ransomnote
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"I think it’s very plausible that for years pollsters have been over-representing educated voters...."

They still don't get it.

It appears that they are saying that if a person doesn't have a 4 year degree they are "uneducated". Not "less educated" or "having only graduated from high school". Uneducated.

I doubt calling such folks idiots (in so many words) is going to cause many of them to vote for a party that holds them in such low regard.

5 posted on 03/27/2017 11:58:47 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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They ignore, marginalize and stigmatize the “white rural” population, and then wonder why these good folks don’t play ball? LOL!


9 posted on 03/28/2017 1:12:11 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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People who are left unprotected by the government have to protect themselves.


10 posted on 03/28/2017 1:41:10 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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...One top Democratic strategist who requested anonymity to discuss candidly what went wrong with the 2016 polls pointed to difficulty in reaching voters in more rural districts because of spotty cellphone service. The same strategist added that many of these voters also may choose not to participate in polls “because they don’t like the establishment and they don’t want to take a survey.”

...Or because they don't want to help you 'liberal' arseholes defeat their candidate by alerting you to your weaknesses.

13 posted on 03/28/2017 2:04:26 AM PDT by piasa
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I think their problem is rather obvious.


15 posted on 03/28/2017 2:37:15 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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Politico articles are pollution to our fine forum.


17 posted on 03/28/2017 2:46:32 AM PDT by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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The same strategist added that many of these voters also may choose not to participate in polls “because they don’t like the establishment and they don’t want to take a survey.”

That is excellent news, and I hope the trend keeps growing. Polls have long been used to influence elections. The sooner people stop having strong belief in the infallibility of polls, the better. This is also a good weapon against vote fraud--if the polls are inaccurate, the Democrats will not know how many votes to manufacture to guarantee a win.

Democrats aren’t ready to prescribe remedies yet, but officials at the national party committees are sending strong signals that they plan to hold pollsters to a higher standard in the upcoming midterm elections.

I would humbly suggest that the Democrats start caring about the country and doing those things that best preserve freedom. And stop devising policies meant to trap people in unending poverty. I know that the Dems have conditioned poor people to vote for them and will happily keep them entrapped in slums forever--but dang, that is so inhumane.

Rep. Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico, who is chairing the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee for the second consecutive election cycle, ruffled feathers last month when he suggested that “unreliable pollsters will not be invited back to the DCCC.”

This, in a nutshell, encapsulates the arrogant attitude of this article, and, indeed, of liberal (i.e. mainstream) media. The Democrats do *not* have a right to our votes. If we do not choose to vote Democrat, it is *not* an aberration against the natural order of things. But to listen to the liberal media, one would think that the only way to vote is Democrat, and that no real person would ever vote otherwise. Hence, in liberal land, those not voting Democrat are outsiders not worthy of being considered human.

19 posted on 03/28/2017 3:03:23 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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The democrats still don’t get it. The pre-election polling was fake. They were designed to create the impression that Clinton was going to win, in the hope that creating that impression would create that reality. I think the liberal establishment believed their own fake polls and let their election fraud slip a little bit. Hopefully the democrats will continue to delude themselves until the next presidential election. Then when they reach out to all of us uneducated Trump voting hicks in fly over country we can tell them how disappointed we are with Trump and that we plan on voting for the democrat candidate, it will be fun to watch what that does to their polling.


20 posted on 03/28/2017 3:09:26 AM PDT by radmanptn
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The Progs will never get it. You lost the election for one reason. You ran a sack of crap, lying, corrupt, criminal, Hillary Clinton.


24 posted on 03/28/2017 3:40:05 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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The Founders' vision, a common man, entered American politics for the first time SINCE our founding, and the losers who tried to uber Goebbels a free and intelligent nation were exposed and the man behind the curtain shown to be wearing no clothes.

And now, all that political inbreeding has exposed them as the irrational humans that they are.

Either that, or Democrats have been photo-shopped in and it has all been a joke.

26 posted on 03/28/2017 3:46:28 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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Democrats’ polling problems might not only be voters hiding their intentions from pollsters — some voters may have been hiding altogether.

I always lie to pollsters.

When they are automated, I am a 43 year old, hispanic, demonRAT, lesbian, that hates Trump and loves hildabitch and hiawatha.

The other side of the failed polling results by sampling by state population, i.e. kalifornicator and ny will always skew the results toward the demonRATS, but pollsters don't adjust them because that is the result that they want to see.

These dumb bastards fool themselves...on purpose.

27 posted on 03/28/2017 3:49:42 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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>> The party didn’t just lose among rural white voters on Election Day

The Democrat Thug Party got hammered. And whatever ‘winning’ support it garnered came from the illegal urban vote.

The vast majority of counties in New York went for Trump.


28 posted on 03/28/2017 3:50:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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rural white voters, particularly those without college degrees

You know--Those people that DemocRATS despise.

29 posted on 03/28/2017 3:51:49 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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If you look at it from a “makers and takers” perspective, the Democrats offer nothing to the makers, or those who want to be makers. Statistically, there are more takers than makers, so Dems still have a chance, provided they can get the takers to the polls.


30 posted on 03/28/2017 3:57:32 AM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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Emotionally mature people never answer phone calls from strangers, especially pollsters. Liberal moonbats, on the other hand, will trip over each other to take a phone call from anyone. There’s your blind spot.


31 posted on 03/28/2017 4:00:49 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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“The folks who would talk to a stranger about politics just aren’t representative of people who wouldn’t”

When people are labeled “ignorant racists” whenever they deviate from the Democrat Party Line, they tend not to answer political questions from strangers. This article makes the ignorant, racist assumption that these people are all ignorant racists, i.e., in Leftspeak, “rural white people without college degrees”.


34 posted on 03/28/2017 4:13:45 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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This started way back: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067223/President-Obamas-2012-campaign-abandons-white-working-class-voters-favor-minorities-educated.html


38 posted on 03/28/2017 4:41:18 AM PDT by tje
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This is a slur that many salesmen have used for decades. When the person say something like “my dad always drove a Chevrolet” the salesman comes back with something like, “let me guess that he probably had a high school diploma or less. A GED? We see that Chevrolet is very popular among those without higher education.”

Mattresses, cars, life insurance all have been sold by implying that the competitor’s adherents are ignorant, uneducated people.

Ignore it. Its just a tactic.


40 posted on 03/28/2017 4:53:23 AM PDT by anton
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