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Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion
The Intercept ^
| March 16, 2017
| Glenn Greenwald
Posted on 03/16/2017 12:46:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
From MSNBC politics shows to town hall meetings across the country, the overarching issue for the Democratic Partys base since Trumps victory has been Russia, often suffocating attention for other issues. This fixation has persisted even though it has no chance to sink the Trump presidency unless it is proven that high levels of the Trump campaign actively colluded with the Kremlin to manipulate the outcome of the U.S. election a claim for which absolutely no evidence has thus far been presented.
The principal problem for Democrats is that so many media figures and online charlatans are personally benefiting from feeding the base increasingly unhinged, fact-free conspiracies just as right-wing media polemicists did after both Bill Clinton and Obama were elected that there are now millions of partisan soldiers absolutely convinced of a Trump/Russia conspiracy for which, at least as of now, there is no evidence. And they are all waiting for the day, which they regard as inevitable and imminent, when this theory will be proven and Trump will be removed....
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TOPICS: Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: democrats; russia; trump; trumprussia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Attend a few classified briefings and even normally clueless Dems start to recognize that the only 2016 Russia collusion involved Dems. Best to let this one fall back through cracks.
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posted on
03/16/2017 12:53:25 PM PDT
by
InterceptPoint
(Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
So wait, if a lie is repeated often enough, it does not become true!?
Liberal heads about to ‘splode!
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posted on
03/16/2017 12:53:33 PM PDT
by
chris37
(Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
And the Democrats are planning to apologize... NOT!
The Democrats will never apologize. They are scoundrels and bums.
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posted on
03/16/2017 12:57:19 PM PDT
by
dhs12345
To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The principal problem for Democrats is that so many media figures and online charlatans are personally benefiting from feeding the base increasingly unhinged, fact-free conspiracies just as right-wing media polemicists did after both Bill Clinton and Obama were elected" The difference being so called right wing conspiracies were & still are fact based, supported by research and sworn testimonies.
Left wing accusations, by contrast are indeed fact-free fantasies intended mainly to blow enough political smoke to conceal their own wrong doings.
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posted on
03/16/2017 1:09:48 PM PDT
by
BroJoeK
(a little historical perspective...)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
just as right-wing media polemicists did after both Bill Clinton and Obama were electedYeah, you tell 'em, Glenn Greenwald - the whole Monica Lewinsky / Linda Tripp / suborning perjury stuff was just another unhinged, fact-free conspiracy put out by a 'Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy' that has been that has been conspiring against Hillary Clinton's husband "since the day he announced for president."
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posted on
03/16/2017 1:12:29 PM PDT
by
Zeppo
("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think that MSNBC is REALLY WORRIED.
Larry Johnson, retired CIA and State Department official, told RT.
"He DOES have evidence." ex-CIA agent, on Obama wiretapping Trump (7:26)
Mar 5, 2017"All of this was part of a coordinated planned campaign by people that are linked to Barack Obama."
There are still senior people in jobs at the Director of National Intelligence office, the office of the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency that ought to be fired;
Larry Johnson, retired CIA and State Department official, told RT.
But MSNBC just keeps repeating their lies very loudly and very often.
Only the mentally unstable listens to them any more.
Read this summary from
Parsing Clapper by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY on March 8, 2017 :
" ... In sum, and scrutinized carefully, General Clappers statements do not refute the claimthat the Obama Justice Department sought and obtained FISA surveillance authorization targeting associates of then-candidate Donald Trump associates who were connected to his campaign to varying degrees.
And bear in mind that while the media and Democrats are now using Clappers statements to try to downplay Obama-administration investigation efforts against Trump associates, they were very content for the last four months to have Americans believe an aggressive investigation was underway.
As I explained in yesterdays column, fueling the public perception that Trump and his campaign were under investigation has been essential to propping up the false narrative of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Putin regime to hack the election.
On that score, as Jims Morning Jolt concludes:Im betting that if the United States government ever actually had evidence of such an earth-shattering conspiracy, the director of national intelligence would have known about it. "
Now, let's continue with more evidence:
Watch this:
Mark Levin PROVES Trump Wiretapping Claims: The Evidence Is Overwhelming #ObamaGate (12:31)
Published on Mar 5, 2017
Sunday on Fox News Channels Fox & Friends, while discussing President Donald Trumps tweets accusing the former Obama administration of wiretapping Trump Tower before the election, conservative radio talk show host Mark Levin broke down the wiretapping reporting.
Levin said,Well, a pleasure to be here. The evidence is overwhelming. This is not about President Trumps tweeting.
This is about the Obama administration spying, and the question is not whether it spied.
We know they went to the FISA court twice.
The question is who they did spy on and the extent of the spying that is the Trump campaign, the Trump transition, Trump surrogates.
Levin then read several news articles about the surveillance.
There's several LIBERAL News Sources named in that video.
Found by Mrk Levin at
Mark Levin PROVES Trump Wiretapping Claims: The Evidence Is Overwhelming #ObamaGate(They went to the FISA, that's the
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, Court not once ... BUT TWICE ! ) :
1. Heat street, November 7, 2016 EXCLUSIVE: FBI Granted FISA Warrant Covering Trump Camps Ties To Russia Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of U.S. persons in Donald Trumps campaign with ties to Russia.
The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russias Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.
2. The Guardian, Jan 10 2017 John McCain passes dossier alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts to FBI
The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials.
The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October,
3. McClatchy, JANUARY 18, 2017 FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to TrumpThe FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated for months in an investigation into Russian attempts to influence the November election, including whether money from the Kremlin covertly aided President-elect Donald Trump, two people familiar with the matter said.
The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Departments Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.
4. New Your Times, January 19 2017 Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates
The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Departments financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.
5. New York Times, Jan 12 2017 N.S.A. Gets More Latitude to Share Intercepted CommunicationsIn its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the governments 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.
6. New York Times, March 1 2017 Obama Administration Rush To Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking"In the Obama administrations last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians across the government.
7. New York Times, Feb 9 2017 Flynn Is Said to Have Talked to Russians About Sanctions Before Trump Took Office
8. Washington Post, March 2 2017 The Daily 202: Trumps Russia headache gets worse, as Sessions struggles to spin undisclosed meetings U.S. Investigators have examined contacts Attorney General Sessions had with Russian Officials during the time he was advising Donald Trumps Campaign. The focus of the U.S. Counter Intelligence Investigation has been on communications between Trump Campaign Officials and Russia.
The inquiry involving Sessions is examining its contents while serving as Trumps Foreign Policy Advisor in the spring and summer of 2016.
9. The Wall Street Journal, March 2 2017 Investigators Probed Jeff Sessions Contacts With Russian OfficialsU.S. investigators have examined contacts Attorney General Jeff Sessions had with Russian officials during the time he was advising Donald Trumps presidential campaign,
Where was
it written (?)
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,
that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,
giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
speaking lies in hypocrisy;having their conscience seared with a hot iron; ...
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posted on
03/16/2017 1:26:45 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh dear, they only found stuff via “wiretaps” as reported by the New York Times on Trump and nothing on Russia. Bummer for the DummycRATS.
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posted on
03/16/2017 1:31:18 PM PDT
by
Chgogal
(I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; InterceptPoint; chris37; dhs12345; BroJoeK; Zeppo
RATS appologize for lying? Are you kidding?
Hussein Obama only had ONE option, generate a Russian story that had NO BASIS, no evidence.
WHY did Hussein generate this lie?
The WikiLeaks emails showed that RATS were breaking laws and thumbing their noses at America. To distract and divert, the presstitutes got their marching orders to ignore what Wikileaks said and to concentrate on the Russian narrative.
When was the last time you saw a headline with Hillary's Pay for Play information? When did you last hear about John Podesta talking about hot tub fun with children, one ALMOST 7 years old?
The RATS buried the real dirt and played Americans for the idiots that they are.
RAT have been winning. They will keep winning until the discussions and the investigations divert back to Hillary and Hussein's criminality.
That MIGHT change when the RATS start being arrested. Start with Hillary's destruction of evidence. There is NO defense, she's guilty.
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posted on
03/16/2017 1:40:24 PM PDT
by
politicianslie
(What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? : Exactly what Hussein Obama did)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The real question is “will there be rioting in democrat streets” once this gets out. Another oppotunity for Free shoes and TVs for democrats could be in the cards.
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posted on
03/16/2017 1:45:02 PM PDT
by
2001convSVT
(Going Galt as fast as I can.)
To: Yosemitest
I’d bet Comey is the most worried about this. He was sure Trump was going to win. He bet on the wrong horse.
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posted on
03/16/2017 1:47:06 PM PDT
by
Terry Mross
(How long has it been since you've haowl of ..... Democrat whip ass chili?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
DEMOCRATS = FAKE AMERICANS
13
posted on
03/16/2017 2:02:30 PM PDT
by
zzwhale
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting that now that they are about to have to TESTIFY UNDER OATH...the Russian ‘conspiracy’ seems to be dropping from favor.
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posted on
03/16/2017 2:14:42 PM PDT
by
BobL
(In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
To: 2ndDivisionVet
So you mean he won legitimately, Wolf?
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posted on
03/16/2017 2:37:19 PM PDT
by
OrangeHoof
(Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
EVIDENCE? We don’t need no stinkin’ evidence!
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posted on
03/16/2017 3:12:32 PM PDT
by
TBP
(0bama lies, Granny dies.)
To: TBP
So no evidence of Russian collusion... No evidence of wiretapping. It’s a wash, let’s move on.
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posted on
03/16/2017 3:24:42 PM PDT
by
ez
("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
To: ez
So you believe it’s credible that Hussein did NOT bug teh Tower? Seriously? That would be completely out of character for BO.
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posted on
03/16/2017 7:32:39 PM PDT
by
TBP
(0bama lies, Granny dies.)
To: ez
So... no evidence of wiretapping. You're kidding, right?
Whether you want ot call it wiretapping, "intercepts", or whatever—and whether it was done under US auspices with warrants, or foreign auspices with no warrants—there simply no doubt that classified information and the contents of private phone calls have been leaked.
And in order to have a leak, someone has to have intercepted or eavesdropped on the communication in the first place.
We also have 0bama, right before he left office, suddenly and profoundly "liberalizing" the policies related to sharing intelligence, and in a way that 0bama wasn't comfortable with during the entirety of his administration.
There's no evidence for the Trump-Russia collusion, of course—because it didn't happen—but there's ample evidence that Democrat-affiliated elements of the deep state have been engaging in surveillance, regardless of the auspices under which it has been conducted.
Crimes have been committed somewhere along the line here, and they haven't been committed by the Trump administration.
The swamp needs to be drained to the bottom...
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posted on
03/16/2017 7:48:23 PM PDT
by
sargon
("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
To: TBP
I don’t think Obama bugged Trump Tower...I think he got a hold of the metadata.
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posted on
03/16/2017 8:04:37 PM PDT
by
ez
("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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