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Trump is in control of fight with California
The Orange County Register ^ | February 11, 2017 | Susan Shelley

Posted on 02/11/2017 7:36:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Ever since Donald Trump was elected president, California has resembled the busty blonde B-movie actress in a horror film.

You know the look. Eyes wide. Red lips parted halfway between a gasp and a scream. Hands frozen in mid-flail.

That was the reaction in the scene where President Trump called California “out of control” and said he might have to cut off federal funds.

This terrifying prospect has public officials up and down the state looking everywhere for a copy of the U.S. Constitution. It says he can’t do that, right? States have rights. Right?

You might think so if you read the Tenth Amendment: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.”

That amendment was written to make it absolutely clear, even though the authors of the Constitution thought it was already clear, that the federal government had limited powers. The powers of the states, on the other hand, were “numerous and indefinite,” in James Madison’s words....

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: California; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: california; califtrump; leftistrant; sanctuary; statesrights; trump; trumpcalif

1 posted on 02/11/2017 7:36:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actually, California has looked like this:


2 posted on 02/11/2017 7:43:07 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha ha. How does it feel, to be on your own?


3 posted on 02/11/2017 7:46:54 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

California is in for a rude shock.


4 posted on 02/11/2017 7:47:46 PM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s so cute that Libs use words they don’t understand.


5 posted on 02/11/2017 7:52:28 PM PST by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: gogeo

Yup.

Security regarding noncitizens falls directly in the purview of national defense. There is no tenth amendment agreement there.


6 posted on 02/11/2017 8:00:04 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: TADSLOS

So is the rest of the US. THey haven’t tried to go it alone without the 9th largest economy in the world at their back.


7 posted on 02/11/2017 8:09:11 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The spillway at Oroville Dam is the tip of the iceberg for the California maintenance that is governed by the Democrats in Sacramento. Our roads, which are the highest costs per mile for maintenance, rated 47th in the US for quality and drivability. I am not an advocate for Trump to withhold funds, but Jerry Brown is begging for a fight because of control and being childish. Jerry is jealous that he isn’t the president, so he like other Fascist Democrats make threats against the Federal Government. He stomps his feet and shakes his fists. Like a little boy in the schoolyard. Trump responds by acting the same way. We are going to run out of money fast just cleaning up from the storms, and with the snow pack, problems like Oroville lake spillway will continue to happen. And we have highways all over the state right now closed due to mudslides and avalanches. And many towns have flooded, causing many to be homeless now. We are in the middle of a major crisis. And Jerry wants to act like a 6 year old child


8 posted on 02/11/2017 8:09:13 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: ransomnote

49-1 says that the rest of us will get by without California’s “help”.


9 posted on 02/11/2017 8:13:56 PM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: TADSLOS

http://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-america/2015/09/18/heres-how-much-each-state-contributes-to-us-economy/


10 posted on 02/11/2017 8:25:10 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: realcleanguy
We are in the middle of a major crisis. And Jerry wants to act like a 6 year old child

He's not acting. Liberals are children.

11 posted on 02/11/2017 8:26:22 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ransomnote

It doesn’t matter how much California produces if a supermajority of their citizenry supports defying Federal law and readily accepts fraud waste and abuse from the government it elects. California can eat their own garbage.


12 posted on 02/11/2017 8:35:00 PM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: TADSLOS

CALexit 2018 !


13 posted on 02/11/2017 8:36:21 PM PST by vooch
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To: TADSLOS

And how about Americans? Can Americans eat their own garbage too? Because when Obama was in office you probably didn’t go on about how all Americans are trash. Yet the sane, conservative people of California who are disgusted with the liberal coup that has resulted in our crazed “selected officials” are regularly told by fellow freepers that we deserve it, had it coming etc. Well, we don’t. I didn’t “deserve” Obama - I agitated against all that he stood for. I don’t deserve the snowflakes in CA, I agitate against them. But, I guess your ego needs regular stroking, huh? We don’t run like you do - we stay and fight. We don’t understand how we are ever going to win the battle against the leftist corruption by turning tail-between-the-legs like you do.


14 posted on 02/11/2017 8:39:57 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: realcleanguy

Good points. It should be interesting to see how the feds/Trump responds to the request to designate parts of CA as a disaster zone so it can get federal emergency funds to repair things.

Trump could simply say sure thing; right after you lose all this talk about a sanctuary state and get rid of the sanctuary umbrella over the cities in CA and do it all legal like on paper through lawyers and such. In fact while we’re at it; let’s make sure everyone working in CA goes through the e-verify check just to be on the safe side to make sure you don’t have anyone not having a green card or an American citizen working and taking jobs the legal people need then if a company is found to be employing illegals recheck them every month for 2 years and fine them $25k per illegal. Also physically check all companies to see if they numbers of employees match the number they say are employed. In fact, since we’re on the same page finally, let’s make sure no one who is illegal is getting any welfare in any form. Mothers of anchor babies do not qualify. They can take the baby home to find work and raise their kid who can come back later while we work on closing that anchor baby loophole. Sorry; your Beverly Hills celebs are just going to have to clean their own homes or pay someone here legally to do it.

Okie dokie?


15 posted on 02/11/2017 8:48:48 PM PST by Boomer (The modern day leftist dems are the party of criminally insane haters and enemy #1 of the USA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leftists now citing the 10th Amendment? That’s funny.


16 posted on 02/11/2017 8:57:25 PM PST by Flick Lives
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To: ransomnote

Yet the sane, conservative people of California who are disgusted with the liberal coup that has resulted in our crazed “selected officials” are regularly told by fellow freepers that we deserve it, had it coming etc. Well, we don’t.
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Get the illegals, and the illegal vote that goes with them, out, and CA may stand a chance.


17 posted on 02/11/2017 9:22:55 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (A Irredeemable Deplorable Texan)
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To: ransomnote

Pretty sure we’ll manage. Hate to lose that many miles of coastline, but other than that, meh. And I grew up there, before escaping 20 years ago.


18 posted on 02/11/2017 9:41:42 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: realcleanguy

Its going out of control, they cannot use the outlets at the base of the dam because the generator station is flooded, the main spillway is eating into the mountain and the water going over the emergency spilway is washing away debris plus saturating the mountain base of an earth filled dam.

Its going to go by next weekend, heavy rains coming back.


19 posted on 02/11/2017 9:59:09 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best!)
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To: ransomnote

Thank you! Well said. California needs to be rescued from our corrupt swamp just like DC. I pray for the Trump momentum to spill out in CA!


20 posted on 02/11/2017 10:07:08 PM PST by georgiegirl (Count me in the half that's in the Deplorable Basket)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

I don’t know about the dam, but i do know that the state engineers are not telling us the truth and its apparent that they don’t know what they are doing.


21 posted on 02/11/2017 10:42:09 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: Boomer

Trump has California
(moonbeam) by the balls.
This idiot didn’t think
past his nose...defiance
is fickle....


22 posted on 02/11/2017 10:57:30 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: ransomnote

I feel your pain. I am still in New York. Maybe we will never win but someone has to stay behind the lines and fight. Viva the resistance.


23 posted on 02/11/2017 11:12:34 PM PST by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: realcleanguy

Long ago, I was friend’s with a girl from Oroville.


24 posted on 02/11/2017 11:21:26 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: ransomnote

“THey haven’t tried to go it alone without the 9th largest economy in the world at their back.”

Disconnect it from the US power grid and shut off the water from the Colorado River, it won’t be the 9th largest economy for long.


25 posted on 02/11/2017 11:34:50 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The issue was decided on April 9, 1865. No discussion remained. End of story.


26 posted on 02/11/2017 11:48:47 PM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bookmark


27 posted on 02/12/2017 12:25:08 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

this is pretty simple and in some places they are doing it already.

when they find out an illegal is in the local jail put out a federal warrant on them. Then the local cops must hold them under arrest and notify the fed to come and get them.

If they do not enforce the federal warrant then cut off all funding got law enforcement in that county.

The locals can not fight this but they will end up with a crime wave without the extra federal money they receive.


28 posted on 02/12/2017 1:07:05 AM PST by oldenuff35
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To: ransomnote

OK now explain to us just how Cali is going to pay all of that welfare, food stamps, medical coverage for people who work under the table and don’t pay taxes while they are funding a military from scratch to provide for their national defense...

F-35’s are only a hundred million each.... Ships a billion a copy. The existing national guard, and air guard, in cali is not manned or equipped to protect the left coast.

And just think, Cali will be, already is, the number one target for north korea if they ever go crazy....


29 posted on 02/12/2017 1:12:40 AM PST by oldenuff35
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To: ransomnote

I really believe that if Trump can run the illegals out of California the GOP could win quite a few elections there and deprive the libtards of that huge block of electoral votes they have been banking for decades. I do think it is doable and is the path we need to pursue. Of course, the libtards realize this as well and so we are having this fight over illegals. It is a fight we have to win.


30 posted on 02/12/2017 3:28:46 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ransomnote

Boo Frikkin’ Hoo. Your state has been spiralling into a liberal hellhole since Reagan left the Governorship. That didn’t happen in a vacuum.


31 posted on 02/12/2017 6:57:30 AM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: PLMerite

Well, the states LIKE the money it puts into money bag and SFO has a nice little port that comes in real handy like.


32 posted on 02/12/2017 5:38:05 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: oldenuff35

Not sure but I think you have mistaken me for someone who is lobbying in favor of Calexit or Che or something....


33 posted on 02/12/2017 5:39:17 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: TADSLOS

Oh please don’t cry in here. Last time you cried on a thread we had mudslides. You have a soggy little straw man defense going there...don’t waste it.


34 posted on 02/12/2017 5:40:22 PM PST by ransomnote
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