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1 posted on 04/15/2016 2:18:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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More talking points about Cruz outsmarting Trump. The truth is, they changed the process in August just in case they couldn’t stop Trump. They cancelled the Colorado election to keep control end of story.


2 posted on 04/15/2016 2:24:25 PM PDT by Kenny (e)
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"My name is Jay Cost, and I'm a subservient slave of the corrupt establishment. In short, I'm a jerk. But I get well paid for it."

4 posted on 04/15/2016 2:26:26 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I find it unbecoming that the person who seeks to be the Republican Party nominee so nastily bashes the hard working people who are Republican Party delegates. The delegate selection process starts at the precinct level and any Republican who wants to put in the effort to be a delegate can participate. Simply turning up to vote in a primary and spending a few minutes in the effort is not enough. Trump knows this but he plays on the emotions of his uninformed voters to try to tear apart the Republican party. The negotiations between the Colorado and national party about how they would choose their nominee began long before Trump even announced his campaign.


6 posted on 04/15/2016 2:34:42 PM PDT by Savage Rider
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Umm, what you call “hustle” I call a dishonesty that precludes me from voting for him under any circumstance...


7 posted on 04/15/2016 2:37:09 PM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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Trump's accusations are specious and disingenuous. The process that has been playing out is perfectly legitimate. Trump's real problem is that he is being outhustled by the Cruz campaign.

Translation:

Trump's accusations have given him a bump at the expense of Cruz in national polling. Despite the fact that Trump presenting the subject is "within the rules" we will not praise him for simply outhustling Cruz and taking advantage of anything he can within the rules to win. And we sure hope nobody notices how silly and hypocritical this makes us look, because really we are just in the tank for Cruz and will excuse anything he does, and condemn whatever Trump does, and right now we are scared about this bump Trump has gotten, so we are writing an unhinged article trying to reverse it.

8 posted on 04/15/2016 2:38:35 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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Rickey Henderson stole over 1400 bases in his MLB career, with the Athletics, Yankees, Blue Jays, Padres, Angels, Mets, Mariners, Red Sox, and Dodgers, including 130 in a single season in his fourth year. The teams that let him do it should have known better and focused on beating him by the rules. I don’t remember anyone complaining that the rules were unfair when he outplayed them. Two players, George Gore and Billy Hamilton, actually stole seven bases each in a single game - again, advancing to bases they had not “earned” in the usual way but following the rules.

Meanwhile, Trump is getting close to 50% of the delegates with only 40% of the voters. No sensible person would complain that Trump is “stealing” delegates as he gets a disproportionate share under the rules.


11 posted on 04/15/2016 2:45:58 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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Just wait until Monday, when they start complaining about Georgia... They have been going through the process of selecting the delegates to the state convention for several weeks, and the state convention will select most of the delegates to the national convention this weekend apparently. So the Trump campaign sends out a notice to their supporters about the delegate selection a couple of days ago. The only problem is - the people who will attend the state convention have already been selected at the county conventions, and the people who can be selected as delegates to the national convention had to submit their applications and go through an interview process over the past few weeks! The process is basically closed at this point.

So what will happen is once again you will have Trump supporters who did not participate in the county conventions showing up and demanding to be allowed to participate in the state convention, and you will have Trump supporters who did not go through the application and interview process demanding to be allowed to be delegates to the national convention. And when they are not allowed to do so, we will hear more weeping and wailing about how unfair it is. And yet once again it is the fault of the Trump campaign for waiting until the end of the process to get their supporters involved.

Honestly, I think many Trump supporters are getting to be worse than the BLM and SJW crowds...

13 posted on 04/15/2016 2:48:53 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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IMO, you can’t ascribe blame for the shenanigans of the state parties and delegates to either candidate.


37 posted on 04/15/2016 3:23:43 PM PDT by IamConservative (There is no greater threat to our freedoms than Bipartisanship.)
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Cruz is at least guilty of being in on the con of receiving stolen goods from the thief. The GOP. The fix was in when they figured Trump was for real.
Double check you spin machine is in Good Working condition.
Your gonna need it to work overtime next week. Lol. Slappy.
Go Trump


47 posted on 04/15/2016 3:38:38 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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This article is completely correct; thank you for posting!

It may not make the nominee choices more palatable to those entrenched on one side or the other, but there is certainly nothing "unfair" or specious about the various state delegation and convention nominating processes. It's all grass roots, state by state, and don't complain if you didn't figure this out and do your homework!

Obama got elected in large part due to his abilities as a "community organizer" and his campaign's massive social media organization...that's worked out well, hasn't it? HA!

I will vote for whoever the nominee is, and I hope everyone else will too. I will work actively to promote whoever the candidate is. Already voted in the Ohio primary, nothing else I can do right now. Not happy with the choices, but there's a time to whine, and there's a time to prevent HRC ascending to the Presidency for a 3rd Clinton term...

55 posted on 04/15/2016 3:55:36 PM PDT by 88keys (awaiting inspiration in the Buckeye State, but this is still no time to go wobbly...)
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This makes me angry. This process of selecting our party’s nominee should be by the members of our party, not a hustle. I hope that what comes of this is no more shenanigans, that from this time forward the primary process will be open, straightforward, honest, and the same across all the states, that all Republicans voters get an equal voice, and no one gets any special say, and that our party’s leaders are administrators and facilitators not princes and overlords who own and control the process.

Shame on those of you who think this is good because Ted Cruz is managing to hustle and manipulate and cheat and exploit his way into the nomination when he has not won the votes of the people.

And somehow, by doing this, you think he is going to represent the people and save the constitution, when what he is in fact doing is ensuring that the party remains in the hands of those corrupt elitists who own it now.

This whole process is sickening and disgusting. How can anyone condone this?


58 posted on 04/15/2016 4:03:58 PM PDT by erkelly
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Colorado was a travesty... and no they didn’t play by “the rules”. Arizona was an eye opener. Trump won by 2 to 1 over Cruz yet all the Trump delegates are actually Cruz operatives. That is a travesty as well.

The GOPe and Cruz are making a mockery of the system and destroying the credibility of the Republican party. What more should we expect from a bunch slime ball attorneys?


63 posted on 04/15/2016 4:45:55 PM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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So 2nd DivisionVet, i live in Maryland. I noticed that the ballot includes a vote for the candidate and a second vote for choosing three delegates. so does this mean my vote for the candidate drives the 1st ballot and the subsequent ballots are driven by my choice of candidates (which do indicate who they support). i still dont get why people would vote for unbound candidates and there were plenty of them on the ballot.


69 posted on 04/15/2016 5:00:44 PM PDT by applpie
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