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Trump's deal with Cruz
WorldNetDaily ^ | February 21, 2016 | Gina Loudon

Posted on 02/21/2016 10:24:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: nopardons

Hogwash is a good word for what you spew. Most threads are unreadable thanks to you. You don’t post facts you post insults and BS propaganda.


61 posted on 02/21/2016 11:14:41 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

Which means what?


62 posted on 02/21/2016 11:15:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
Trump can't stand him, ted is NOT eligible, so WHY would trump even do that?

teddy is losing, may not even win his own state primary, so what's the point....to satisfy the Cruzers who finally see that the ONLY way to get Cruz even near the White house is as trump's VEEP ? LOL

63 posted on 02/21/2016 11:17:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I still would like to see them put a temporary cease fire and both attack Rubio. Push him out of the away and let it be between Trump and Cruz.


64 posted on 02/21/2016 11:18:11 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: TigersEye
Tsk, tsk, tsk.....get back to me the second week of November; didums.

You are not only blinkered, you also wear a blindfold.

65 posted on 02/21/2016 11:20:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

it means that Rubio did better than Cruz,in S.C.; which really doesn’t mean a lot in the scheme of things, considering that trump won ALL of the delegates.


66 posted on 02/21/2016 11:22:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Enlightened1
WHY ?

With Rowe running Ted's attacks, that's NOT going to happen and so Ted is going down the drain.

67 posted on 02/21/2016 11:23:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; TigersEye

That “didums” thing (which you’ve used on me and others before this) hints to me that you were born in the 1930’s. Am I right?


68 posted on 02/21/2016 11:25:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: nopardons

You know Cruz is a fraud when “Ted” is not even his name. I think he is embarrassed that his name is Rafael Cruz.


69 posted on 02/21/2016 11:26:45 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: nopardons

Nobody “emotion free” uses that many CAPS!!!


71 posted on 02/21/2016 11:28:35 PM PST by JennysCool (My hyprocrisy goes only so far.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dear Phyllis:

Here's my question to you:

If Cruz picks up enough nominations to beat Trump on Super Tuesday, will Trump be the "Big Man" and step down to save our country from the GOPe?

Inquiring minds want to know.....

72 posted on 02/21/2016 11:29:34 PM PST by TXSearcher (If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal........it IS a LIBERAL.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nope.....as usual, you are 100% wrong.

I use a lot of old fashioned words; I like them.

73 posted on 02/21/2016 11:31:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Kartographer; nickcarraway; 20yearsofinternet; JennysCool; Bobalu; ...
My thoughts, which I have to point out are worth exactly what you paid for them, are as follows. I see three scenarios:

1. Trump and Cruz bury the hatchet, with Trump being a one-term president and Cruz taking the baton from there. If this happened then a Trump/Cruz Presidency would be virtually guaranteed. It would be a veritable maelstrom for the Democrats and GOPe, and the GOPe would also find themselves in a situation where they would have no other choice but to support the two. After all, they couldn't be able to pull off a brokered convention.

What's the problem with this scenario: Well, first of all Trump and Cruz have both hit out hard at each other, second their supporters have taken that diatribe up (many) notches, and third I doubt that their natures are compatible. They are both high Alpha males (or high Beta males functioning as Alphas, as at times it is difficult to tell the difference) and are not afraid to make their point forcefully. They'd immediately start grating on one another, and they would probably erode whatever relationship they got started quickly. Compare those two with Reagan and Bush sr. Very different personalities, and also Alpha (or Alpha-functioning Betas), but their frequencies were different enough that although they never always agreed they did not erode each other. Thus, the first scenario is not a strong one.

2. Rubio becomes the sole establishment candidate, and he basically starts (barely) eking out victories in the same way Romney did against Gingrich and Santorum (being stand-ins for Trump and Cruz).

What's the problem with this scenario: Well, Rubio is a bit of a glass cannon. What's a glass cannon? It's basically someone who can be able to assault extremely effectively (the cannon part), but cannot take hits (the glass part). Its like saying a boxer has heavy hands but has a glass jaw. Rubio, at his best, is quite formidable, but as we saw when Christie turned his sights on him, he can be hit. So far no one has really attacked Rubio apart from Jeb and Christie, and Christie only in the last debate before he dropped out (the attacks by Cruz were honestly love pats). He will rapidly come under Trump's sights, and more importantly should Rubio win, he will come under Hilalry's sights. The Democrats do fear Rubio the most (primarily due to projection - he comes across to them as a Hispanic medley of JFK and Obama, and since that's what they know that's what they fear), and thus must already be doing proper research on him just in case he makes it through. The big question for Rubio is this - is there anything in his past that he is hiding that he needs to bring to light now? Because if there is, he will be blasted by the Clinton campaign right out of the water! He is a glass cannon (unlike someone like Reagan, the teflon don himself, and lately Trump, who seem to be adamantine cannons), and if there's any scandal steaming in some closet somewhere, he better drop out now.

3. Trump becomes a split establishment candidate, with some of the establishment supporting Rubio and some supporting Trump.

What am I smoking to say this? Now now now, I'm sure some people by now think I am high on some Kenyan weed (actually more like altitude effects since us Kenyans live at a rather high altitude), but play along for a moment or two. The GOPe is not stupid. It may be foolish, but it is not stupid. They can read the tea leaves better than any soothsayer, and they know things are not good for them. Rubio, as there only hope, is actually a defeat (in more than one way - for one he is not as 'establishment' as they may like, and secondly that 'glass cannon' question I asked earlier). Look at Trump - the GOPe hates (nay, absolutely abhors) Trump, BUT they hate Ted Cruz even more. They absolutely cannot stand Ted Cruz. Secondly, Trump is really anti-establishment, BUT he is someone they can work with. He can negotiate (as opposed to Ted, who seems absolutely willing to not-give-a-single-bleeding-inch-up). Trump is also not as 'extreme' as Ted is, and the GOPe can get behind stronger borders and bringing jobs back. None of the issues of Trump are anathema to the GOPe, its just that they don't like the man and he's pushing them too far ...but none of his issues are unpalatable. Let me give an example - and since you are a vet let me use a military one - it would be like me saying that every pistol in the US Armed Services will be replaced with a Glock 19. Now, chances are that you are a fan of the 1911, in .45, and you were already quite unhappy when the Army went with the 9mm Beretta decades back. Now I am advocating we go to a 'plastic pistol' in the same 'weak' 9mm loading. It may make you unhappy, but it would not be a deal breaker. Get it? That, in a way, is how Trump comes across to the GOPe. He infuriates them, but they can live with it. (As an aside, I love the G19 and as a licensed Kenyan firearm holder, that's the item I carry, and anyways from what I understand Delta Force and the MARSOC use Glocks, and the US Navy Seals just gave up their SIGs for Glock 19s, so it was just an example to make a point).

Thus, Trump could very well be the establishment candidate. They hate Cruz since he is insoluble and there's too much bad blood, and Rubio just has 'something' that makes it seem like he's a glass cannon (kind of like how Herman Cain had a lot of fire, but then something popped up from the past and folded him like a weak suit). There is a chance(maybe small, but still a chance) that you'll see part of the establishment supporting Trump over Rubio. Not all of it, but enough that Rubio and Cruz still end up having no chance.

My thoughts, and as I started off, they are worth exactly what you paid for them. Bottomline - Trump has a very good start, and he is constantly building momentum. Additionally, he has proved to NOT be a glass cannon, and so far no one has come up with a way to stop him. Third, his supporters genuinely see him as the only person who can pull American from the morass it has found itself in, and it is impossible to dissuade them as they see Trump as America's (maybe last) hope. Fourth, many see the fact that the GOPe are unable to unlodge him as being a strong indicator that the Democrats will also be unable to do the same, and this is an important point as Hillary will be a formidable threat (once she kicks Bernie out, all of the Dems will go behind her). Trump's teflon seems to be even stronger than Reagan's was. Fifth, turnout at the primaries has been amazing, and that may party be due to Trump (and it should be something that should worry the Democrats as their turnout has been 'meh'). Sixth, Trump is winning without spending much money - in the last three contests, he was not even in the top three of money spenders among the Republicans. That says something! And finally, seventh, the laws of political gravity do not seem to work for Trump. The man managed to garner all delegates from SC, a state that has one of the highest evangelical concentrations! Trump was not supposed to do well in a place like South Carolina, but he did! The man has been constantly blowing through 'laws of physics' for the past 6 months, and that is something that has never been seen before (not even for Reagan).

74 posted on 02/21/2016 11:32:05 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: nopardons

I never said Trump would do it I said Cruz was better off trying to woo Trump because at least half his people would go to Trump anyway


75 posted on 02/21/2016 11:33:12 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Enlightened1
I still would like to see them put a temporary cease fire and both attack Rubio. Push him out of the away and let it be between Trump and Cruz.

I'm with you.....I want them to send Bubble Boy home.

76 posted on 02/21/2016 11:34:25 PM PST by TXSearcher (If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal........it IS a LIBERAL.)
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To: jonrick46

He kept a lot about him HIDDEN and/or LIED about things. Now a lot has come to light and whether or not he is embarrassed by his real first name or not ( sometimes when father and son have the same first name but different middle names the son uses his middle name; sometimes an initial as W did/does ) and so that doesn’t bother nor upset me. What UPSETS me are his lies, contradictions, phony excuses, and flip flops.


77 posted on 02/21/2016 11:35:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: spetznaz

Trump isn’t running to be a one term President I don’t know why people even contemplate that stuff


78 posted on 02/21/2016 11:35:31 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: JennysCool
I have used CAPS here since 1998, to make a word/s/term stand out, or to make a point. We can't see each other's expression, nor hear tone of voice and sometimes others can and do read into things/get a reply dead wrong.

How I choose to post is NOT breaking and of FR's rules and JR has NEVER told me to "knock it off".

79 posted on 02/21/2016 11:38:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hatched, maybe. Not a warm-blooded specimen and exhibits neural knot, not cerebral behavior.


80 posted on 02/21/2016 11:38:54 PM PST by txhurl (I'm NO LONGER with the Nasty Canadian '16 (well, unless he wins ;))(and he did))
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