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The Iraq invasion was the right thing to do. They should never have mad the WMDs the reason. They did not need to. ut intel at the time said that there was a nuclear program.

We know that there were actually WMDs. GAs, nerve agents, bio agents. Saddam had used them before. It is not accurate to say that there were none. But they never found the nuclear program they expected.

Just the same. Bush defeated Saddam. He then had to retool to defeat the insurgency...and that was hard and expensive. But he and Petraus did that too. By 2007 the insurgency was defeated, Iraq had held elections and adopted a constitution and was on its way to becoming a secular republic. which is what we wanted.

And, it allowed the US to be perched right next door to Iran with a sizable contingency force to allow Iraq to continue to develop.

As I say...that all worked and was a success.

It was Obama pulling out and dismantling that precipitously and releasing many insurgents from the US held jails that led to ISIS and the failures we now see.

THAT WS NOT NUSH’s fault. Trump is using those words and the false narrative established by Obama and the MSM to try and score points against his GOP opponents. it is all pure politics.

Now, I support Cruz in the campaign. I believe that, despite these politics, that Trump would be FAR netter for the nation than Sanders or Hillary and that he will actually do what he has promised.

But lets make no mistake. What Trump is doing is pure hard hitting, under the table politics. Iraq was not a mistake.

It was Obama pulling out and dismantling that precipitously and releasing many insurgents from the US held jails that led to ISIS and the failures we now see.

I appreciate your words of reason. Apparently, many FReepers, in their blind allegiance to Donald Trump, have now fully adopted the Left's narrative on Iraq. Wow.

Iraq was not a mistake.

I agree for the most part. We won the Iraq war in short order. The mistake made was giving authority to the Iraqi people to run the country. We should have stayed, built permanent bases, set up a non-muslim form of government, taken control of the oil production and set up payments to pay us back and then used our bases of operations to spread out across the entire middle east, starting with Syria to end Islamic fundamentalism throughout the region. As with communists, a good muslim is a dead muslim.

Just the same. Bush defeated Saddam. He then had to retool to defeat the insurgency...and that was hard and expensive.

No. I said it so the very instant it happened. When Paul Bremmer announced they were disbanding the Iraqi army and banning all Bathe party members from government, I said at that very instant, you have just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. I instantly predicted the subsequent violence we witnessed.

I told anyone who would listen, "We invaded so easily because Iraqi's hearts weren't really in to it. They wanted Saddam gone. Now we have given them reasons to hate us. "

By disbanding the Iraqi army, and banning all Bathe party members, you have just given them a reason to want us dead. Suddenly we were not liberators, but occupiers.

I told anyone that would listen "You have just informed the most dangerous and capable people in Iraq, that they will never have a future so long as we remain present in their country. " We gave their most capable soldiers and officers reasons to try and kill us.

The bombs started going off a few days later, and the bloodshed had commenced, and it was all thanks to that IDIOT Paul Bremmer and his boss, George W. Bush.

Disbanding the Iraqi army, and banning Bathe party members from their jobs was probably the stupidest political decision of this century until Barack Odumbo came along and exceeded it.

THAT WS NOT NUSHâ€™s fault. Trump is using those words and the false narrative established by Obama and the MSM to try and score points against his GOP opponents. it is all pure politics.
Now, I support Cruz in the campaign. I believe that, despite these politics, that Trump would be FAR netter for the nation than Sanders or Hillary and that he will actually do what he has promised.

But lets make no mistake. What Trump is doing is pure hard hitting, under the table politics. Iraq was not a mistake.

Rush is talking about Trump's motives for his leftist rhetoric right now. But, I disagree with Rush on this. Trump is doing what Trump does naturally. He's just being an elitist, Democrat-supporting leftie. All else is smoke, mirrors and illusion. So if you want another leftie in the WH, yeah...go ahead. Vote for Trump. But remember. I/we told ya so.

Iraq was not a mistake.

The initial invasion was not a mistake. Most things from then out were, including dissolving the army and giving them the right to vote before giving them clean water and trash services.

Iraqis have been living in hell for many years and it is our fault. For me, part of being a conservative is personal responsibility. We took out their government and we should have protected their people. Instead thousands have been murdered and worse. You can blame liberals for making our prosecution of the war more difficult than it should have been and you can blame Obama for pulling out early. But Bush invaded and he had a responsibility to win the peace not just the first 100 days.

And even if you say to hell with the Iraqis, creating a playground for terrorists does not make us safer in the long run.