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To: TBP

The only thing worse than Obamacare, is the mess it replaced.

Just saying.


6 posted on 12/29/2015 11:03:09 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance./c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“The only thing worse than Obamacare, is the mess it replaced.”

Sure wasn’t the case for me and my wife. While we are lucky that we were able to get new H/C policies at a decent price (and w/o deductibles) since we are on SSA and don’t have to geet insurance for Obolacare. But Obolacare mandates forced the cancellation of the policies we had which met our needs very well. But look at the bright side, at 75, I can get an abortion for free (and I’m a guy), and free drug counseling!


15 posted on 12/29/2015 11:09:28 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

My small group policy premiums have doubled under deathcare by the kenyan antichrist. Our deductibles, already high, have tripled. The network of providers is narrower. You are ignorantly, stupidly wrong: deathcare is NOT better than the “mess” it replaced.


43 posted on 12/29/2015 11:24:02 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We have had a form of single-payer in the US for many decades.

It has always been very inefficient, expensive and just plain stupid!

The single payer is as always, the hapless taxpayer :-(

Ever since it was mandated by law that any individual who shows up at any emergency room with any complaint at any time MUST be treated, we have had a twisted form of single-payer.

There is NO way in hell that these laws will ever be changed... thus we will always have a form of single-payer as medical care of last resort.

A realist comes to the inescapable conclusion that all we can do to minimize the disaster is to reform the system into something less stupid.

Medicaid and the legal requirement to treat is our De-facto single-payer system.

You could fly in on a cargo plane from Flyspekistan and parachute to the ground and you could receive free medical care at the nearest emergency room.... all courtesy of the helpless taxpaying citizen.

Obamacare did nothing to make this mess any better :-( It just made it more expensive for the poor taxpayer. It is a way to fine the people who cannot afford to buy insurance.

Perhaps Trump could bring a bit of business savvy to this mess and make it somewhat better.

Single-payer will always be with us in some form.... lets hope we can make it better some day soon.


Malpractice reform would help a LOT. Make awards above a certain amount require all members of the civil jury to vote yea. This would dramatically lower costs. The trial lawyers will fight to the death to prevent this common-sense reform :-(


49 posted on 12/29/2015 11:30:17 PM PST by Bobalu (Even if I could take off, I could never get past the tractor beam!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You’re as wrong as you can be.

85-90% of Americans were at least satisfied with their health care coverage pre-Obamacare. Have you seen any polls on Americans satisfaction with it now? People hate it. I’m in the industry....I know...you don’t.

You would fit in better at DUmmieland.


77 posted on 12/29/2015 11:50:52 PM PST by BridgeOutAhead (Obama.....dabit deus his quoque finem)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It may have been a mess before, but it is far worse now.

Back in 2010, family of five, $7,000 deductible and high co-pays. I think it was considered “catastophic” insurance at the time. $345 a month.

Flash forward to this month. $10,000 deductible, higher co-pays, and we just got our new bill - $1,320 a month! And we know we are already in for some big bills this year. (But hey - at least we’ll meet the deductible!)

My wife opened the new insurance bill just last week (went from $1,040 to the $1,320). She was in tears. “Paying $1,320 a month. For WHAT!?” In my mind I thought “so the ‘poor’ people can have free health insurance.” I didn’t dare say it though.

I’m guessing we’ll spend almost $30,000 in medical expenses next year. Another few years at that rate and we’ll probably be able to get the “free” insurance.

FUBO


107 posted on 12/30/2015 12:06:31 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You are so messed up....!!

What in the heck are you doing here?

135 posted on 12/30/2015 12:17:19 AM PST by Osage Orange (Many people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
The only thing worse than Obamacare, is the mess it replaced.

What universe are you living in? Set aside the fact that many people (including me and my family) lost our perfectly good health plans because they could not afford the B.S. mandates. Set aside the fact that most Americans are now paying higher premiums and higher deductibles for a reduced level of care. Set aside all of the other facts that resulted in the degradation of the U.S. health care system under Obamacare. The absolute tragedy of Obamacare, and any Universal Health Care scheme is that we are now a country in which the government can force us to buy a sevice, whether we want it or not.

151 posted on 12/30/2015 12:24:24 AM PST by Washi (All lives matter, or none do.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Don’t be fooled, the premise of the article is a lie. He isn’t supporting single payer. He’s clearly describing a private competitive system that will cover most people. The “they” he’s talking about the government paying for are people who can’t otherwise afford healthcare. It really just proves the “conservative media” can be just as dishonest as the left-stream media.


301 posted on 12/30/2015 2:08:47 AM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What mess Obamacare replaced? That’s a liberal argument.. what we had was far better than Obamacare and with a few tweaks it would have been fine (i.e. open competition across states).


308 posted on 12/30/2015 2:15:49 AM PST by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No, quite the opposite. 0bamacare is much worse.


335 posted on 12/30/2015 9:52:44 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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