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The GOP Establishment Is In For A Shock Over Trump’s Muslim Moratorium
The Daily Caller ^ | December 9, 2015 | Scott Greer, associate editor

Posted on 12/08/2015 9:51:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Jim Robinson
They’ll come around. Just as as they discover we the people demand it!

I'm not so optimistic. Poll after poll has shown that we the people have been demanding an end to illegal immigration for years - and the political elites continue to follow the same message as always. Where's the reason to believe that they will pay attention to what we want now? When it comes to Beltway establishment views and what the people want, we already have seen which wins with our politicians.
21 posted on 12/08/2015 11:23:02 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

If Trump’s polling numbers continue to soar after this and GOPe candidates continue to plunge, they’ll get the message. They may not alter course, but they will no longer matter anyway.


22 posted on 12/08/2015 11:37:11 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: Zhang Fei
And the way people like Ryan and Obama are carrying on, you’d think Trump had just convened a Wannsee Conference about a Final Solution to the Muslim question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3up5SZBZdY

23 posted on 12/08/2015 11:41:46 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Jim Robinson

The one thing about the Trump opposition is that they are cowards and paper tigers. They fold very easily.

Do you remember the outrage about the handicapped reporter and that was sure to end Trump’s campaign? That disappeared overnight never to be mentioned again because Trump proved there were muzzies celebrating 9-11.

In tat process there was a subplot. Trump was making fun of handicapped people and such insensitivity was sure to end his candidacy. That went away just as fast.

A few weeks from now this muzzie controversy will go away because history is on Trump’s side. Too many presidents have already done what Trump proposes. This will die out as quickly as it came up like everything else.


24 posted on 12/09/2015 12:22:31 AM PST by GilGil
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To: Jim Robinson

There will be another Islamic terror attack. They are happening more frequently. Direct result of Obama’s foreign policy of empowering ISIS.


25 posted on 12/09/2015 2:23:21 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Eventually these assholes will discover that Carter pulled a similar stunt.


26 posted on 12/09/2015 2:26:09 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Parley Baer

He’s going to be the President.


27 posted on 12/09/2015 3:25:59 AM PST by Ray76
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To: nopardons

Good. This forces people to take sides and eliminates the ease with which people just “go along” because they “want to be nice” and open the rest of us to death. This had been the whole GOPe “strategy” for years: concede a little, then we’ “get em next time,” sort of like the Indians when the settlers pushed a West.


28 posted on 12/09/2015 3:43:43 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is becoming apparent that San Bernardino is a cathartic, seminal event for Americans. More so, perhaps, than 9-11.

The California massacre has the distinction of having been carried out by someone who had every reason to not only assimilate, but to embrace the country in which he was born. We all know someone like him. This is a betrayal, and it exposes the futility of continuing to attach the word “radical” to the word “Islam”.

The people feel they have been put into a position that requires them to read minds in order to feel safe, or protect their own, and San Bernardino brought this to the fore. Where it happened, how it happened, and who did it makes this a significant emotional event for Americans.

Trump’s proposal, in singling out all immigrant muslims not yet having arrived, becomes the first to break through the definitional logjam, and detach the word “radical” from the conversation. In the minds of the people, this makes the policy more sane, not less.

Perhaps San Bernadino will become the turning point, the event which signaled a change of course, a change in the way Islam is viewed. Certainly, Islam now qualifies in the minds of most Americans as deserving a different legal status-that of a dangerous cult-instead of a religion entitled to constitutional protections. Trump sees it, and the reaction to his proposal, on both sides of the aisle, exposes those who don’t as downright dangerous, IMHO.

If I am wrong, and we continue the current course, this is headed for the people taking matters into their own hands. Knowing we have not the ability to read minds, Americans can make this country a very inhospitable place for muslims. If they know what’s good for them, Trump’s proposal should now focus the American muslim mind in such a manner that they finally begin to police their own.
Who can wonder why they have not, given the out we have provided them with the insistence on blaming this only on “radicals”, instead of Islam itself? Who can believe that not one “good” muslim became privy to what Sayed and Tashfeen were up to?

Ironically, this makes Trump’s proposal the only humane one. If we continue the current course, mosques will burn, and vigilantism will spell death for muslims in America. San Bernardino has crystalized in the everyday American’s mind that there is no solution to this problem that doesn’t involve consequences that accrue to all muslims, good and bad, because we simply can no longer tolerate being asked to read their minds.


29 posted on 12/09/2015 3:44:53 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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Good points. Agree that San Bernadino has put us in a new place. It feels like a bookend to the 9/11 era. 9/11 was an attack from outside. We bent over backwards to give Muslims in America the benefit of the doubt. But now we have this betrayal that changes the social logic, both practically and emotionally. You are dead on about the “reading their minds” aspect.


30 posted on 12/09/2015 4:14:43 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Jim Robinson
Donald Trump doesn't know that he's just suppose to give platitudes to his Conservative constituency while quietly working with the GOPe and their elite donor base.

Which is what we normally see when we elect so-called Conservatives to go to Washington.

31 posted on 12/09/2015 4:18:39 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Jim Robinson

The last line is the best:

“Whatever the outcome of the 2016 GOP primary, it should dawn on party leadership that they are sorely out of touch with their own supporters.”

They have no clue what’s about to hit them. None.

L


32 posted on 12/09/2015 4:22:28 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The GOP established has been co-opted by the socialists and is no longer viable leadership. This is clear, present and the reason why the base simply walked away and turned to new leadership.

What we see when GOPe representatives speak is basically a walking, talking husk of a former power that no longer has any influence outside of money, which has shown no viable results in the presidential election so far.

33 posted on 12/09/2015 4:28:48 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Jim Robinson
They’ll come around. Just as as they discover we the people demand it!

Yep - they ignore that polls indicate over 75% approval for the proposal. Using it to attack him with only makes them look weaker and him more sane.

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34 posted on 12/09/2015 5:26:28 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump's proposal is to stop letting in Muslims until we have a real handle on the issue and can be sure they won't try to kill us. Obama's continuing policy is to let them all in and hope for the best. They are polar opposite policies; Total Ban vs Wide Open Door.

The press tells us that Trump is Hitler while Obama is reasonable and wonkish but a tad tone deaf in his speeches.

No double standard there.

35 posted on 12/09/2015 5:30:12 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Politics: from the greek "poly" [many] and the english "ticks" [blood sucking parasites])
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