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RedState convention: 5 takeaways
The Politico ^ | August 9, 2015 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 08/09/2015 11:09:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 08/09/2015 11:09:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say the gopE will use Trump as an excuse for getting slaughtered after selecting a rino nominee.


2 posted on 08/09/2015 11:12:09 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I say that you are correct.


3 posted on 08/09/2015 11:12:57 AM PDT by sport
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Coverage of RINO State from Propagandico? Pass.


4 posted on 08/09/2015 11:13:47 AM PDT by exist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I saw the headline I knew that one of the five points would be a begging, wheedling, wishful plea for Trump to go away.

In your dreams, Darlin’.


5 posted on 08/09/2015 11:17:33 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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And EE is no longer with ...


6 posted on 08/09/2015 11:17:49 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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Erickson (undeclared Democrat) divides America.
7 posted on 08/09/2015 11:18:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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People who attend these events (cpac, redstate) are political junkies. I mean I love politics but I would never attend one of these events. To me, they are basically part of the establishment. So them having lukewarm support for Trump does not surprise me. Further, this is from the politico so add a little bias too.

Based on polls, Trump has support from across the board, and from many apolitical types who would never spend a weekend listening to Erick Erickson and a bunch of politicos speak about their “2020 vision for America.”

I’m a cynic by nature so I did note all the RINO media (NRO, Weekly Standard) promoting Cruz, basically to say we are not really a bunch of Jeb Bush RINOs here. But that’s me.


8 posted on 08/09/2015 11:19:21 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline for lease)
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[What say you?]

Thanks to the rejection of God in society, the dumbing down of education, and the downward spiral of traditional values in news and entertainment, The Donald appeals to a large demographic that crosses culture, race, and political party. He speaks their language, and they support him.

This election may won on Jerry Springeresque rhetoric - and the war between culture and vulgarity. Trump is the “Boxers or Briefs” presidential candidate.


9 posted on 08/09/2015 11:32:24 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
I say the gopE will use Trump as an excuse for getting slaughtered after selecting a rino nominee.

trump is the reason we'll get a RINO. He's siphoning momentum and support away from Cruz and the (less conservative but still halfway decent) Walker. This is splitting the true conservative vote and allowing Jeb to hold on to second place in many polls. And with Jebs money and connections he'll never be lower than second. So if and when Trump sputters out Jeb will be the one candidate still standing.

10 posted on 08/09/2015 11:33:17 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: stars & stripes forever
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I now "distain" Erick Erickson ...


If RedState conducted a straw poll, the Texas senator almost certainly would have won.


The REAL reason Erick Erickson didn't conduct a straw poll is because Yeb Bush would have his @ss handed to him on a platter ...



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11 posted on 08/09/2015 11:36:25 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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redstate.com=Salem Broadcasting=RINO Central


12 posted on 08/09/2015 11:38:28 AM PDT by Company Man ("An armed society is a polite society." -- Robert Heinlein.)
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No big deal.

This is a trivial issue, at best.


13 posted on 08/09/2015 11:43:06 AM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I disagree, respectfully.

When Trump finally quits from essentially boredom the overwhelming majority of his supporters will swing to Cruz as he is the closest to Trump’s ideology concerning immigration. The big “I” is going to continue to be a main topic all the way to election day.


14 posted on 08/09/2015 11:43:24 AM PDT by biff
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What say you?

I appreciate your posting this Politico summary but I still would like to get a more decent account of how things really went this weekend in Atlanta. But where to find one...
15 posted on 08/09/2015 12:19:58 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: biff

You could be right. My concern however is that if trump stays in too long Cruz may never get enough momentum to stop Jeb and the elitist machine


16 posted on 08/09/2015 12:20:11 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; 2ndDivisionVet

If Cruz loses, or Republicans lose, playing the victim card lacks class.

Cruz has the most identified supporters, the 2nd most money. But he seems to have a 4th class staff who have no clue how to run a political campaign. items.
1) Cruz has been in Georgia several times now, signing books, etc prior to this weekend. When his staff sends us appeals for money their emails never mention “Oh by the way, Ted will be signing books 2 miles from your house. Why not bring a couple friends to meet him.” Or “He’ll be in Newnan Saturday after his Red State appearance and it won’t cost you $295 to see him. Why not bring some friends to Newnan.” There are 3 things in politics: people, money and the brains to know what to do with them. Cruz has the first two. His staff seems to lack the 3rd. They need to step up their game. This aint bean bags.

2) When Cruz spoke at the DeKalb book store the book store owner stood at the door preventing people from entering who did not “look” like Cruz supporters. He prevented a Black, uncommitted conservative from entering. (I had talked to him across the street at McDonalds before we went over to the book store.) The bookstore owner also prevented other Blacks from entering (of unknown political persuasion). The media will blow such events way out of proportion. The Cruz staff/leaders need to be in control every Cruz event and prevent others from giving Cruz a bad image.

3) At the Newnan event there were no Cruz yard signs marking the path from the expressway to the BBQ, as is common in such events. The result is that many people arrived late. The only indication one was approaching some kind of event was the blue flashing single police car near the road. There was no Cruz person helping park the hundreds of cars. The first impression of the Cruz event was that the Cruz campaign was in chaos.

4) At the Newnan event Cruz spoke to the crowd while he was standing in the hot sun and most of the crowd was in the shade of tall trees. After the speech, Cruz shook hands while still in the hot sun. The staff should have immediately moved their candidate from the hot sun to the middle of the crowd in the shade. The hot sun puts more stress on a candidate and increases the risk of an unforced error.

5) Many similar “small” aspects of the Cruz campaign show that it appears to be run by amateurs. The Cruz staff seems to be clueless what to do with what they have.

6) Cruz himself is great. After his speech at Red State, the press wanted to immediately interview Cruz. But Cruz put priority on meeting the Red State attendees and lower priority on the press. That should have been mentioned in the review above. That priority by Cruz was the talk of the crowd the rest of Saturday afternoon.

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Jeb told us he was for getting the Federal government “completely” out of the education business. He also said we should keep all the big federal funding of education...but with tweaks to the strings that are attached. Is Jeb on the same planet as the rest of us?


17 posted on 08/09/2015 12:23:09 PM PDT by spintreebob
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Would you like me to pass that on to my people there?


18 posted on 08/09/2015 12:25:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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Trump is going no where...he'll never do the "sit in your house and drink hot chocolate schtick" that it takes to win places like Iowa...I like Trump because he is so brash and says EXACTLY what is on his mind.

I am amazed at the media this weekend harping on the Meghan Kelly thing....they are acting as though the poor little girl is totally defenseless against mean old Donald....I don't think for 1 second that she is unable to defend herself and certainly doesn't need sympathy.....she's a big girl now and can undoubtedly kick some butt herself....

19 posted on 08/09/2015 12:26:45 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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.he'll never do the "sit in your house and drink hot chocolate schtick" that it takes to win places like Iowa.

That's the conventional wisdom. Seems that Trump won't be tied down to the conventional wisdom.

20 posted on 08/09/2015 12:30:38 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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