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Ted Cruz just upped the populist ante for 2016 Republicans
Fortune ^ | June 24, 2015 | Tory Newmyer

Posted on 06/24/2015 7:57:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: CaptainMorgantown

> “ Had he not supported TPA on its first vote in the Senate, it might have been stopped in the House.”

False and worth repeating for the umpteenth time why such statements are false.

> “ It was only in the face of total repudiation by his base that he triangulated to this current position.”

Not true. The TPA he first supported was a good bill. There was nothing in it that would give Obama power to harm America.

> “As always, a bill that does real damage passes by a few votes, and our so-called conservative representatives explain that they did all they could.”

It was democrats that defeated the bill with the help of justifiably angry conservatives from the House Freedom Caucus.

Here’s the proof:
http://elizabethwarren.com/blog/heres-what-this-fight-is-all-about

And it was the democrats with the aiding and abetting of Boehner that passed it after they were promised all they wanted and after conservatives were maltreated by Boehner.

Cruz is not the problem, Obama/Boehner/McConnell and the Beltway Cartel are the problem.

Ted Cruz’ base is growing wildly and they are not stupid because they ask him direct upfront at town halls what he is thinking of TPA, TPP, TISA, etc.

Here’s the proof (time 52:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sznh5AjageI

Every word Ted Cruz says in the above link is true.


21 posted on 06/24/2015 9:54:29 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

not on youtube yet


22 posted on 06/24/2015 10:00:57 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: G Larry

Donald Trump just payoffs and corruption are the price of doing business....

go Ted!


23 posted on 06/24/2015 10:02:13 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Hostage

The first TPA the second TPA the seventeenth.TPA was not a good bill
Like I told you before,it was dog SHIT on the sidewalk ,and he stepped in it,rather than around it.It was going to pass without his vote,he didn’t need to step in shit.With TPA, TPP and all the other crap is going to be BAD for America.This crap will be passed within 9months tops.
I asked on a different thread,(after I listed all the ails of America facing us)why was this bill the defining moment of our time?With everything wrong in this country,why do we need to be rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic???
This is not the time to be negotiating trade deals with the EFF’N scumbags that reside in our government,right and left,they suck.What are you unable to understand about that???These scumbags are mother EFf’N traitors,you don’t give them more power.The GOPe& demonrats are only beholden to themselves,banksters&multinationals.This ain’t 1947, wake the F up.


24 posted on 06/24/2015 10:22:41 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: impimp

That’s one of the best posts I’ve seen on the H1B issue in a long time. Hope you’re planning to stay (and vote).


25 posted on 06/24/2015 10:44:39 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (Is it any wonder I'm not the president?)
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To: crosdaddy

> “Like I told you before,it was dog SHIT on the sidewalk ,and he stepped in it,rather than around it.I”

That’s not the level of discourse needed for political discussions.

Please take it some neanderthal barroom where you can join with like-minded persons to express whatever the hell you’re expressing.


26 posted on 06/24/2015 11:03:44 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Mariner

Prevailing wage doesn’t work. I would rather give H1Bs to people with 100k job offers if the prevailing wage is 150k than 60k job offers if prevailing wage is 50k. It doesn’t matter about prevailing wage anyway because employers, if I remember the process correctly, need to show that there are no Americans available to do the job. That is extremely easy for HR departments to do, even if you don’t like their methods.


27 posted on 06/25/2015 4:06:25 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Hostage

Thank you for the very detailed and reasoned reply. Yes, it is in our best interests to bring in some of the best and brightest from around the world. But the truth is that only a small number of those coming in on the H1B program are the “best and brightest”. The vast majority are filling regular tech jobs at lower salaries than would be paid our own workers.

If Senator Cruz were truly interested in reforming the program, he would not be calling for the importation of hundreds of thousands more foreign workers. That will only exasperate the situation for our own STEM workers. It is far more likely that Cruz is beholden to the companies that benefit from the program.


28 posted on 06/25/2015 6:06:27 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: impimp
It doesn’t matter about prevailing wage anyway because employers, if I remember the process correctly, need to show that there are no Americans available to do the job. That is extremely easy for HR departments to do

Exactly - H=1B is a con job.

29 posted on 06/25/2015 6:50:50 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Parmenio; ColdOne; Yossarian; knittnmom; sf4dubya; Mr. Peabody; wally_bert; dowcaet; ...
H-1B ping. Let me know if you're not on the list and want to be added (or are and want to be removed).
30 posted on 06/25/2015 6:52:18 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ted Cruz just upped the populist ante for 2016 Republicans

Cruz hasn't seen much less raised this populist policy: "the next president and the next Congress need to make decisions about a legal immigration system that’s based on, first and foremost, on protecting American workers and American wages".

31 posted on 06/25/2015 6:58:45 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: impimp
Probably because the H1B program helps America.

It ain't helping this American.

32 posted on 06/25/2015 6:59:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mariner

im a pimp is an h-1B “success” story. Without his skills America would have been doomed. He is a hero just ask him.


33 posted on 06/25/2015 7:00:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hostage

Bu!!Sh!t


34 posted on 06/25/2015 7:02:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: impimp

The main flaw is in the H1-B visa scheme is that it’s corporate welfare in disguise. The government is using policies to artificially lower wages in science and technology fields and lying about it.


35 posted on 06/25/2015 7:12:28 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: impimp
Probably because the H1B program helps America.

How is that? By displacing highly paid and skilled I.T. workers for example, with workers from India at a fraction of the cost while holding up their green-card and forcing them to work long hours?

you might want to learn to get past the political talking points before you post on this topic again.

36 posted on 06/25/2015 7:16:02 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Hostage
But first we need Ted to crack down on the abuses and then to reorient the H1B program with strict directives and criteria for who is eligible.

Has Cruz said he'll reorient the H1B program with strict directives and criteria for who is eligible?

37 posted on 06/25/2015 7:25:01 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Oldhunk

I just wrote to Cruz on the issue of H1-B Visas. I had not paid much attention to the issue since it is not a big factor where I live, but even one American job lost is too many.

I have found Cruz to be a most reasonable person. I believe if those concerned about this issue will contact him, he will listen.


38 posted on 06/25/2015 7:50:18 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Oldhunk
only a small number of those coming in on the H1B program are the “best and brightest”. The vast majority are filling regular tech jobs at lower salaries than would be paid our own workers.

Yup - and by many reports they're semicompetent drones.

39 posted on 06/25/2015 8:01:38 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Hostage

Those scientists were made full citizens, something that the guest worker programs week to prevent. All came for a desire to be a part of the United States, none came for a wish to undermine it’s citizens.

On the other hand, the guest workers are far from top talent. If one has to train the replacement under threat of severance/unemployment status, that provides proof that citizens have superior qualifications.

Such programs need to die, since they do not deliver as described. It is regulation that is un-American in every way - unless fraud is an American value.


40 posted on 06/25/2015 8:05:27 AM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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