More, “you guys are stupid, trust Cruz?”
Glad you found that. I really trust Cruz and they are making up lies about Heidi now. He is just awesome. Betcha none of the Cruz haters show up here. Will be another urban legend or conspiracy theory.
These guys miss the point. The point is they are claiming the government has the right to pass “secret” legislation whose contents are not revealed to the American. There is no place for “secret” legislation in this country.
If it is so good, make it public. If they are willing to do that, screw them all.
This was an outstanding article. Thanks!
Like Jenner and Dolezal and Eliz Warren,
Sen “Toast” Cruz does not reside on Earth,
since he thinks he can support SECRECY, lies, SECRECY,
antiConstitutional BS, SECRECY, new taxes,
open borders and the Tyrant and be
.... a “conservative” or a “Patriot”.
Well, I’m sold and ready to cede U.S. sovereignty.
WHO’S GOT THE CRUZ PING LIST? /
For whatever it may be worth, I’ve struggled through the wiki-leaked documents and the primary conclusion I have reached is that they steal the sovereignty from the United states and give it to some sort of nebulous UN/World Court authority.
In my humble opinion Ted Cruz has been convinced by his Wife’s Goldman-Sachs cronies that his ‘bread would be better buttered’ by them than us TEA party type peasants. Combined with his desire to quintuple H1B immigration, he has lost his place as my #1 choice as ruler.
It’s all good to you guys, I guess .....
My position is crystal clear.
We do not need any more free trade agreements that the Obama Administration is negotiating. We do not need a law that is 800 pages and passed secretly where not even the people voting on it can read it. Also we simply need to know no more than the fact that Obama wants it, so it is either self serving, bad for the country or both and we certainly should not be giving him any victories.
Thanks for posting.
Article discussed treaty / trade agreement legislative Process, and why the US needs to address trade with Pacific partners.
Author does not discuss the high secrecy of TPP terms.
Outrage expressed here in opposition of TPP / TPA has to do with the aggregious Content discovered within agreements that will have an adverse affect on our nation’s jobs, economy, sovereignty and consumer safety.
Cruz and fellow republicans are compromised fools to champion trade agreements that are now ill-perceived and will likely prove to have a bad impact on our middle-class.
But that seems to be part of the plan...
most transparent administration ever
Think one kept in secret should be the first?
Comments?
I’ve never heard of Bill Sullivan. I can’t make heads or tells sense of what he’s saying. For instance...
...TPA, is the CONTROL on a president, when tell the president, this is what you can agree to and what you cannot agree to. This is what we will accept and these other things will not be accepted. It sets the goals to be achieved and the limits of what he can negotiate. This way he is not making a bunch of short term, out of control executive agreements when he is allowed to do BY HIMSELF as head of foreign policy.
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What is that? CONTROL on a President, when tell the President???
A good Q&A audio. However, I did not hear anything new.
Cruz: Admits it LOWERS the vote from 2/3 to 51%. Which is what many of us, along with the Tea Party, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Matt Drudge ALL have been saying.
At 3 minutes and 5 seconds and 5 minutes and 5 (more or less on the time) Ted Cruz justifies this by saying historically nothing would pass. Which is absolutely false. Cruz is implying we have had 0 treaties, 0 trade agreements and agreements since FDR. That is not true. We have had plenty as we all know. The MOST IMPORTANT PART is that we NEVER HAD TO LOWER THE VOTING STANDARD IN THE PAST. That has been in place for over 200 years.
I love how Cruz tries play the Reagan card too. Yes Reagan was for free trade but FAIR TRADE.
Reagan LEFT IN TARIFFS. Reagan even told Germany and Japan you can AVOID USA TARIFFS IF YOU BUILD YOUR AUTO PLANTS IN THE USA.
Guess what BMW and Toyota relocated to the good old USA. Reagan created jobs here unlike CRUZ that ONLY WANTS THE UNITED STATES TO PAY TARIFFS to other countries while all the other countries DO NOT HAVE TO PAY. And he has the nerve to call that “Free Trade”? It’s only free for other countries. The USA STILL pays tariffs.
I see Cruz once again says you have 60 days to debate. Hence, the name “Fast Track”. Cruz is PRETENDING they are expanding the time when in reality they are LIMITING THE TIME.
Someone Needs To Ask Cruz, “If the TPA gives us 60 days to debate, then what is the current number of days to debate.”
The answer is that the current time is UNLIMITED. So the TPA LIMITS DEBATE instead of expanding it.
Recap:
TPA
1) Limits the 2/3 vote to 51%
2) Limits debate time FROM UNLIMITED TO 60 DAYS ONLY.
Finally, I love how Cruz dodges the TPP by saying I have to look at it. Then he accuses Senator Jeff Sessions of getting it wrong.
I’m with Senator Sessions on this one and thankful that he is there.
The people that have all ready decided that they are 100% right, 100% of the time, will not read the article and if they do, will call it bs or propaganda.
They are 10-12 FReepers, that will find fault with Jesus Christ, and are not even satisfied with their own opinions.
They, like the liberals, don't deal in facts.
In fact, even members of Congress have been able to view only the TPP thus far if they go to a secret room to view it and agree not to divulge the content. Concurrent with the secrecy involved is a level of dishonesty and subterfuge that is beyond even that which Americans have come to expect from their government.
In a glaring example of Orwellian double-think, ObamaTrade advocates are simultaneously pushing for Trade Promotion Authority (TPA, aka "Fast Track") to get the supposedly jobs-creating trade agreements through Congress, and Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) for U.S. workers who lose their jobs because of the agreements. So which is it? Is ObamaTrade going to lose jobs or create jobs? The answer, according to House Ways and Means Committee chairman Paul Ryan and others who support ObamaTrade, is yes both.
Apparently they believe (or expect voters to believe) that jobs must be lost in order for jobs to be created. Moreover, without government intervention in the marketplace jobs will be lost and created as a result of innovation and consumer preferences. (How many workers make typewriters these days compared to computers?) But does it make sense for the U.S. government to sign treaties that will destroy jobs and then increase government spending to help the displaced workers? How can such an approach end any way but badly?
On May 22, the Senate passed the Trade Promotion Authority bill, which also included the Trade Adjustment Assistance provisions to assist U.S. workers who will be displaced. But GOP House leaders decided to have the House vote on Trade Promotion Authority and Trade Adjustment Assistance separately, assuming there was a better chance of passing both separately than passing them together in a single vote. But the strategy backfired. Though the House passed Trade Promotion Authority Friday, it rejected Trade Adjusmtent Assistance. This made the TPA vote a hollow "victory," since the legislation cannot be cleared by Congress and sent to the president for his signature unless both the House and Senate pass identical versions of the legislation.
Consequently, for the TPA and TAA to move forward, either the House has to take another go at it or the Senate must revisit it. (You have to appreciate the separation of powers our Founding Fathers put in place!) Ironically, the TAA was torpedoed on Friday by Democrats who support the trade adjustment assistance but who (in the words of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi) "want a better deal for America's workers."
As it stands now, the House may vote on Trade Assistance Authority again as early as next Tuesday. Thus, despite initial news reports in the wake of Friday's votes suggesting that ObamaTrade may have been dealt a deathblow, the political reality is that Mark Twain's famous quote "The report of my death was an exaggeration" may turn out to be very appropos. Much more arm-twisting and back-room deals are expected over the weekend as President Obama and establishment Republicans push for passage in an effort to avoid having the bill go back to the Senate.
So it went like this...
The House bill...A BILL To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide for a right to an administrative appeal relating to ad- verse determinations of tax-exempt status of certain or- ganizations.
(H.R. 1314 Ensuring Tax Exempt Organizations the Right to Appeal Act)
This was the response from the Senate...a complete transmogrification of the original House bill.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES A BILL To establish congressional trade negotiating objectives and enhanced consultation requirements for trade negotiations, to provide for consideration of trade agreements, and for other purposes.
(Hatch, Wyden and Ryan Introduce Trade Promotion Authority Legislation)
So, yeah, technically, it started out as a House bill but it isn't the same House bill as is the case with so much that goes on in DC these days. Bait and switch comes to mind.
Excellent explanation AGAIN on the trade bills. The low information/not going to read it/he’s all lies, group will be here and remain low information/not going to read it/he’s all lies. No point in answering their vitriol.