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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He can run for President since his Mother was an American Citizen, his status is not in question as millions of former and current military member have children who are born overseas and thus are natural born citizens.... Boom!


2 posted on 02/24/2015 7:11:24 PM PST by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: Trueblackman

Completely different grounds for qualification- statutory exemption for children born to military members overseas on military orders.


11 posted on 02/24/2015 7:16:41 PM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Trueblackman
It's the FATHR'S citizenship that matters.

Ask the Brits;

16 posted on 02/24/2015 7:34:04 PM PST by skeptoid (the thot plickens)
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To: Trueblackman
He can run for President since his Mother was an American Citizen, his status is not in question as millions of former and current military member have children who are born overseas and thus are natural born citizens....

Sorry Trueblackman, but you might begin by asking Mr. Obama, who, along with his presidential campaign co-chair, Claire McCaskill, co-sponsored Senate Bill 2678 on February 28, 2008, "To clarify the law and ensure that children born to United States citizens while serving overseas in the military are eligible to become President." That bill failed to pass out of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Most U.S Senators are attorneys and Obama is a constitutional scholar. SB 2678 wasn't rejected for redundancy. Mr. Obama clearly doesn't agree with your proclamation of who is a natural born citizen. Mr. Obama, by-the-way, has never called himself a natural born citizen and neither has Mr. Cruz, most all of whose suggestions I support. Mr. Cruz has said through a spokesman that he is as eligible to be president of the U.S. as Mr. Obama, and with that I wholeheartedly agree.

When SB2678 failed McCaskill hurriedly submitted Senate Resolution 511 on 10 March 2008 together with Obama, Leahy, Clinton, Webb, and Coburn, known as "Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen." Resolutions are not laws. They aren't actionable. You should ask yourself why Obama's campaign committee, which included his Harvard Law advisor Larry Tribe, were so interested in helping John McCain, whose eligibility they had previously and thoroughly impeached Just search, if they haven't all been scrubbed, WaPo, NYT, LA Times, stories after each of a dozen or so stories explaining McCain's ineligibility, and after Dem Law Professor Gabriel Chin's thorough explanation.

For a careful and very thorough review of the law read Mario Apuzzo at http://puzo1.blogspot.com/ where he addresses precisely this issue. Mr. Apuzzo was of the several attorneys blocked at the Supreme Court when he attempted to get the court to resolve the issue addressed often in past cases, and in one case where that definition was essential to the decision rendering it precedent. Precedent is not binding, but overturning it requires some careful construction or many past decisions could be put into doubt. The court needed to confirm the only class of citizen defined in the U.S. Constitution, the definition based upon the language and law familiar to our framers, since, as Madison explained, there are not definitions in the Constitution itself, by design, because word meanings evolve over time and natural law is eternal.

Their cases were blocked by Obama's two appointees, Kagan and Sotomayor, both of whom stood to lose millions of dollars and lifetime appointments if their sponsor were to have been deemed ineligible. There are no laws addressing the integrity of supreme court justices and no enforceable rules for recusal. The Constitution provides only for impeachment of justices, a constraint to help impose separation of powers. Let's try to insure that Mr. Cruz is available to replace the sensitive and malleable Mr. Roberts as chief justice. Cruz knows the truth, but knows that Alinsky rules in these times, and he probably sees no reason to give up the platform he us using so well.

31 posted on 02/24/2015 9:21:07 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Trueblackman

I hate to be the cold water, but I’m afraid conservatives have lost their ever-lovin’ minds. Before Obama NO ONE believed that anyone born outside of the U.S. was eligible to be President. What has changed? Nothing. I love Cruz. He can’t be President.


32 posted on 02/24/2015 9:25:54 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Trueblackman

I suspect the service people you are referring to are Both US citizens and serving on US( even though temporarily )dedicated soil. Not so with Cruz who had only one parent i.e.. mother while serving in a foreign country (with a non US citizen husband and father of Cruz) which was without any dedication to the US. There are differences. I don’t see that a mother has any priority over a father as far as citizenship is concerned, or visa versa and I believe the Founders were thinking the same way.


158 posted on 02/27/2015 11:56:22 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Trueblackman

There’s a difference between being born overseas while your parent(s) are in the “service of your country” as military or foreign service personnel, and working for a company in the oil fields, or other employ that is not ‘in service of your country.” The former exception was always understood and waived.


184 posted on 02/27/2015 10:01:33 PM PST by EDINVA
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