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The Florida Republican shenanigans regarding West really ticked me off. For the Republicans to redistrict him is verging on the criminal.

The Repubs also did a nasty redistricting of republican rep Tom Price (Region 6, Ga.). Price, a very conservative candidate, had a great campaign and won his seat, regardless of the nasty remapping.

Our biggest enemy of conservatism is the Republican Party itself. Get out the TEApots, let's have a Party!!

1 posted on 11/20/2012 8:04:33 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: Scooter100

The only people the GOP can defeat is itself.

Let them.

There isn’t going to be any turning this around now. If one of our enemies is intent on committing suicide, then let it.

I’m done with the GOP.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 8:10:35 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Scooter100

On CNBC this morning, “Bloviator Joe” Kernan was again attacking TEA Party voters as the cause of Romney’s loss. He wants Republicans to go after the homosexual vote, but his “big tent” has no room for social conservatives. Of course, if social conservatives leave the GOP, it will never win again, but he’s certain he’s right, as usual.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 8:11:24 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Scooter100

I couldn’t agree more. The GOP lost me years ago, and they have given me zero reasons to come back. I’m a big C Conservative, so that leaves me with no place to go, for now.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 8:12:49 AM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Scooter100

I was worried about the way my district was changed but it doesn’t appear to have hurt us.


5 posted on 11/20/2012 8:13:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Scooter100

Speaker Joe Straus of San Antonio also did this to TX state House Republicans too. Straus faces opposition for the Speakership in January from conservative Bryan Hughes of east TX.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 8:13:53 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, they must all be <i>crazy</i> out there!")
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To: Scooter100

Yep. The Florida House and Senate went overwhelmingly GOP in 2010...it was darn near a clean sweep. I believe the House went approximately 80/20 in our favor. The resulting redistricting not only screwed Allen West, but they also set up the primary battle between Sandy Adams and John Mica. Mica is the consummate DC insider. He’s the chair of the transportation committee, champion of high-speed rail spending, etc.

Adams won her seat in 2010 over Suzan Kosmas who was literally one of those final ‘blue dog’ votes that helped pass Obamacare in the final vote. Adams would have had that seat locked up for as long as she wanted it, and she was a real grassroots champion. She was going after the EPA on their horrific regulations, etc.

The FL GOP set up the ugly primary, where Mica had all the resources and took her out. We lost a true conservative for a guy with stage 4 beltway-itis.

We lost two of the best people in congress due to GOP shenanigans...and a woman and black man on top of it. This stuff is maddening.

As Levin put it last night, if these brilliant consultants like Steve Schmitt and Mike Murphy want to keep throwing conservatives under the bus, they are just asking for a third party. We are getting screwed by both parties.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 8:17:00 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Scooter100
I just told the gop to NEVER call me again. I told them that not only did they lose the election because of who and what the gop/e are, but that they are losing America by not trying to change the corruption that leads to our elections being stolen. I told them that they are cowards for not trying to stop obama and that the dims always win because the republicans refuse to fight the dims in the same way that the dims fight republicans. I told them that they do know how to fight but that they reserve their meanest and nastiest to use against their own base. I told them that I am a TEA Party Patriot and that they do not have to worry about how to divorce themselves from people like me.

LLS

11 posted on 11/20/2012 8:20:54 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: Scooter100
For the Republicans to redistrict him is verging on the criminal.

In what way was it "verging on criminal"? Please explain what laws were on the verge of being violated.

From my understanding West's district was changed mostly on account of redistricting ballot initiatives the Democrats managed to get passed in 2010. It probably affected his district more than anyone else.

12 posted on 11/20/2012 8:22:17 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Scooter100
GOPe'ers across the country set out to defeat conservative TEA Party candidates - and they did in many parts of the country, however, they also defeated a few of their bought and paid for RINOs.

This should finally open up the vast schism between conservatives and so-called "moderates" in the GOP.

It really is time for ideological war within the GOP to hopefully save it from itself.

No longer will conservatives sit back, donate, vote and keep their mouths shut; no longer will the RINOs not admit what they are fighting to keep - power!

Let us be honest and open about the RINOs attempting to rule with an iron hand, being more of a pediment standing in the face of conservative values being represented in our political process. RINOs believe in their heart of hearts that they alone should represent the party apparatchik, including the bank account.

That branch of the GOP will take the party the way of the WHIG Party, while celebrating themselves for keeping those great unwashed from being "the ugly, hateful face of the Party."

Going back to the paraphrase the bible, "If your left arm causes you to sin, cut it off......"

If conservatives within the GOP hope to win another major election, it's time to "get it on" and "let's roll!"

16 posted on 11/20/2012 8:32:43 AM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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So what we now have is "the war within the party".

GOPe's vs. Tea Party conservatives.

The GOPe's are so embedded with the Dem. party, don't expect any of them to rock their PERKy boat and kill their golden goose via Dems control.

By the time we (conservatives, Tea Party) really takes off, the D & R's will have yet another method to stop us. I am sure they are working on this as we type.

Reform within either or both parties combined will never work, Oh, they will THROW US A BONE and pacify us for the spell, but they are already planning their next move to destroy us. One that we don't know yet, but it will happen.

All they need to do is KEEP US BUSY, pacified, even if all it is, is crumbling among ourselves, and that is all it is. It works, and here we are CRUMBLING, but to no end.

STARVE the RNC??? ROFL....plenty of big business lobbyist will keep them going, for their perks and/or political positions.

21 posted on 11/20/2012 8:43:11 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Scooter100

you are right as rain.

many of our trustworthy conservative candidates, who lost in this election, were under constant “friendly” fire from their own party or were redistricted by the powers that be into un-friendly districts.

they over performed in their races, especially given the handicaps they ran under.

certainly they performed better than the establishment’s losers this cycle including the “boat anchor” romney (use any criterion you want including total losses, money spent, percentage margin, registration margin, etc).

i hope our Lord will have mercy on us and provide a vehicle for the formation of a united Conservative movement.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 8:58:21 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Scooter100

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM. DEFUND their collectives. DISMANTLE their collectives. DEPOPULATE them from the body politic.

Pay, pensions and perks of all legislators past and present rescinded for not reducing/eliminating the debt.

(...it is a moral crime to give money to support ideas with which you disagree; it means: ideas which you consider wrong, false, evil. It is a moral crime to give money to support your own destroyers. - “The Sanction of the Victims”, TOF, April 1982.7.)

“—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

Alter it.


25 posted on 11/20/2012 9:02:07 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Scooter100
GRAVITAS
27 posted on 11/20/2012 9:09:26 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Scooter100
I agree wholeheartedly regarding West, but what the heck are you talking about regarding Tom Price? The GA 6th is about as safe as it gets, and the results back this up.

U.S. Representative, District 6
    
3 of 3 Counties Reporting
    Percent Votes
TOM PRICE (I) R
64.51% 189,669
JEFF KAZANOW (D)
35.49% 104,365
      294,034

30 posted on 11/20/2012 9:35:28 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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“The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.”

“PolitiJim writes for Gulag Bound, November 13, 2012, that during the weekly True the Vote webcast, Catherine Engelbrecht related a meeting she had with Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC), asking what the GOP would do about voter integrity. The answer?
Nothing. They aren’t legally able to.”

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/11/why-gop-wont-challenge-vote-fraud.html

Ask the RNC to explain this—(they won’t)—then, change your affiliation to “Independent”.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 10:28:48 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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I am done with the republican party. Quitting them now. They are not a freedom loving party. They are in collision with the Democrats to ruin America. So I will be leaving.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 1:26:58 PM PST by Mozilla
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