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"We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protect the rich so they get to keep their toys." (Jindal, 11/12/2012)
1 posted on 11/13/2012 1:08:18 PM PST by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Yes! While that’s not what we are, that’s how it came across, mostly thanks to foot-in-the-mouth, easily parodied, clueless Romney.

One of the problems is that we have a massively dumbed down electorate, so we can’t assume that saying things like “states’ rights,” 1st or 2nd Amendment protections, or individual liberty mean a darn thing to them. So we have to begin from the ground up to get out a good, powerful message and get people excited about it. And we can’t start the week before the elections. We need to start now.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 1:11:40 PM PST by livius
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To: Sir Napsalot

Jindal gets it.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 1:11:51 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Sir Napsalot

After clicking on the link and reading it, I still don’t know what he is talking about...but I know I did not like to see the word “inclusive”...that reminds me of “ big tent” talk. We don’t need to worry about being inclusive. We need to worry about defining and articulating our conservative principles and then sticking to them.

And I don’t like Jindal maligning the rich. I like rich people. They create jobs. They hire people. We need more rich people. We need to be nice to rich people and give them elbow room.


6 posted on 11/13/2012 1:24:00 PM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Sir Napsalot

For all you non-Louisianians, understand this. Jindal is the biggest RINO of the bunch. He’s got a gift for speaking but he’s a democrat in wolf’s clothing.


7 posted on 11/13/2012 1:33:40 PM PST by NY Cajun
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To: Sir Napsalot
As I wrote after the election, we can’t allow ourselves to fall into the trap of being mainly an oppositional party — being defined by what we’re against rather than what we’re for. We have to have a clear, positive agenda aimed at communicating specific policies that will improve the lives of voters in demonstrable ways.

And, therein lies the rub. As long as the linguini-spined, limp-wristed cowards in the GOP-E allow the Dems to define us, we will ALWAYS be the party of the rich.

The GOP (if they survive and I, for one, could care less!) needs to re-educate America on what the GOP stands for and THEY need to start shining a very bright light on the crimes committed by the criminals on the left!! Let the GOP-E show some cajones and maybe . . . . . . . . . . . MAYBE . . . . . . . . . . . . they can get people back.

But, I don't see that happening - EVER!!! It's easier to hide in dark corners and run when the Dems point fingers at them. Besides, fighting the Dems in the gutter might mean that the elitest GOP might be late for Happy Hour at the club.

8 posted on 11/13/2012 1:35:12 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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“dumbed-down” conservatism AKA “severe” conservatism


12 posted on 11/13/2012 2:00:02 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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The problem with republicans is the message.

No, not our message, but the democrat’s message, which is:

“Vote for us, and get free stuff. Get your free condoms and your free phone, and your free housing, and your free food, and your free transportation, and your free college education, and your free... “

So, who does not want free stuff, especially when so many of those getting free stuff also don’t pay for that stuff when they don’t have to pay taxes.

How does anybody compete against big government that promises to take from the haves to give to the have-nots? How does anyone win the votes of those who believe that, businesses are evil and the wealthy are more evil?

The only thing that perhaps will bring the country back from the inevitable collapse of the economy, is to stop the spending which keeps those people wanting more “free” stuff. Once those people get a taste of what Greece and Spain are experiencing, perhaps then, they’ll be ready to start moving in a new direction. But, I don’t hold any hopes there either, since, from what is being witnessed in Greece, they still believe that, there is still more free stuff out there to be had.

I fear that, complete collapse is inevitable, and we don’t have the people in power to effective convey the message that, we are in a hopeless death spiral.

Becoming more “democrat-like” is not the answer, and would be absolutely the worst road to take.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 2:07:21 PM PST by adorno
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We need candidates who can communicate better

Interesting coming from a guy who set his career back at least a decade with that clinker of a televised GOP response speech.


14 posted on 11/13/2012 2:08:34 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Another GOP sissy on parade!


26 posted on 11/13/2012 2:58:18 PM PST by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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.... We need candidates who can communicate better and make sure that campaigns remain focused on those core values and specific policy agendas that will improve the lives of all voters.

**

Dream on! Really? Why are so many of these pundits so blind to the fact that the paradigm has shifted entirely? They need to understand that the progressives/Marxists have completely taken over the system now. There will never again be a fair national election in my life time, as they are in total control of the process.

By 2016, as we are fully immersed in a third world milieu, the votes of conservatives, the voices of conservatives will be counted as nothing.

Crying as I type this, as I am mourning the death of our republic. I am a Boomer, so I do not mourn for my own sake but for my children and for my grandchildren. As one of my older sisters told me, we got to live in the best part of it. My dear grandsons will never know the true taste of liberty. We let it slip away not with a bang but with a whimper.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 3:12:39 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

And now Jindal jumps on the “let us become more like the Dems” bandwagon too.

Why don’t all these spineless cowards just become Dems and get it over with?


35 posted on 11/13/2012 3:33:42 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Yep. The idea that all that matters is the elite’s place in the economy and the GOP should ditch social conservatives, the middle class’ economic interests and the culture war is stupid and lackluster.


40 posted on 11/13/2012 5:21:36 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Sir Napsalot

I remember Jindal’s rebuttal speech to Obama’s State of the Union Speech.

Based on what I heard that night, Jindal is a non-starter. He may be good for Louisiana...but, he doesn’t cut it on the national level.


41 posted on 11/25/2012 9:23:34 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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