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For GOP: Pawlenty vs. Romney is the Main Event (RINO-licious!)
Frum Forum ^ | May 1, 2011 | David Frum

Posted on 05/01/2011 10:41:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Bill Kristol posts that he now believes that Mitch Daniels, Mike Huckabee and Michelle Bachmann will indeed all declare.

The National Journal simultaneously reports that a Newt Gingrich declaration is imminent.

Haley Barbour is definitely out. Marco Rubio is definitely out.

Mitt Romney is clearly in. Tim Pawlenty is clearly in. Trump incredibly also seems inbound.

Chris Christie, Sarah Palin, and Paul Ryan remain wild cards.

Here’s one way to analyze what happens next. I sort the Republican candidates into three piles:

CANDIDATES WHO COULD WIN THE NOMINATION

Christie
Pawlenty
Ryan
Romney

(Bachmann is too obviously crazy. Daniels will be vetoed by social conservatives. Gingrich won’t be able to get past the Nineteenth Amendment. Huckabee will be vetoed by money conservatives. Palin is too much of an all-purpose personal mess. Trump is a flash in the pan.)

CANDIDATES WHO COULD WIN THE ELECTION

Daniels
Huckabee
Pawlenty
Romney

(To be precise: a list of candidates not so fatally vulnerable that they would throw away an election that a challenger might otherwise possibly win. That excludes Ryan whose plan is anathema to all but hardcore conservatives. That excludes Christie, whose style will horrify Americans outside the Amtrak corridor. Ditto obviously Bachmann, Gingrich and Palin. Huckabee is telegenic enough that I’m going to venture that he can get past his ideological vulnerabilities. Daniels is smart enough that he can get past his image vulnerabilities. Assuming in both cases that the economy remains soft enough that anyone can win at all.)

CANDIDATES WHO COULD ACTUALLY DO THE JOB OF PRESIDENT

Christie
Daniels
Huckabee
Pawlenty
Romney

(Basically: the governors, except Palin.)

There are only two names that appear on all three lists: Pawlenty and Romney. My guess is that the race boils down to a battle between the two of them.

Romney’s disadvantage in such a fight is Romneycare plus a general odor of insincerity.

Pawlenty’s disadvantage? The fact that he’d make an outstanding candidate for premier of a Canadian province.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; frum; kristol; michelebachmann; obviouslycrazy; palin; pawlenty; personalmess; rinos4romney; romney; sarahpalin; trump
Being Canadian, I suppose David would know. Who here really believes Mike Huckabee will give up a $3.5 million dollar mansion in Florida to traipse around the country again? So those that came up with RomneyCare or pardoned scores of murderers & rapists would do a better job at running the country than Gov. Palin? Sexist much, Dave?
1 posted on 05/01/2011 10:41:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ping for later


2 posted on 05/01/2011 10:47:58 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just Who, exactly, listens to Billy Kristol? Have YOU ever heard him stumble over an intelligent thought?


3 posted on 05/01/2011 10:48:23 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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Dave, you are so transparent, no one would take you seriously. Is letterman your real last name?


4 posted on 05/01/2011 10:48:29 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Sexist much, Dave?”

Homo twerps like Frum don’t much cotton to women.


5 posted on 05/01/2011 10:55:18 PM PDT by jospehm20
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I have two comments. First, I’m slowly becoming a Pawlenty fan. I know he has his problems, i.e. tepid support for some sort of cap and trade a few years ago, but he IS a former governor (read leader) and has made statements in line with the Tea Party on spending. He disarms his critics with his easy going manner. That will be a huge asset running against Obama. That personal asset reminds me of another former republican governor that became president.

Second, I take issue with the article’s statement “that excludes Ryan whose plan is anathema to all but hardcore conservatives.” Not so. Ryan’s plan is NOT a conservative plan. It does not balance the budget for more than a generation. It is a House Republican leadership plan and we’ve all seen how conservative they are (not) these past few months. There are two conservative plans out there. First was Rand Paul’s. Second was by the House Republican Study Committee.

And since I’m still thinking of the big news of the night, let me say, God bless America and God bless our military.


6 posted on 05/01/2011 10:57:20 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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who is talkin this jibberjabber? Oh never mind, it’s David Frum.


7 posted on 05/01/2011 11:10:47 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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Oh please, are we going to go through the RINO phase again?


8 posted on 05/01/2011 11:24:33 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They sound just like libs. Lie, lie and lie.


9 posted on 05/01/2011 11:25:32 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are two people who will remain nameless right now; but they are in.


10 posted on 05/01/2011 11:26:38 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: arrogantsob
Just Who, exactly, listens to Billy Kristol?

Oh, he's smart enough. The question is whether he's ever made correct predictions ... about anything.

11 posted on 05/01/2011 11:29:16 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: arrogantsob

Kristol and Frum. Whoever they hate the most is the best, whoever they like the most is the worst. I’m worried they’re gonna catch on to their reverse-psychology-type power with the
Conservatives, and start attacking a neocon.


12 posted on 05/02/2011 3:51:21 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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Fee, Fi, Fag, Frum.

Hide in a corner and suck your...thumb.

13 posted on 05/02/2011 9:33:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Trust the backstabbing Canadian poser Frum?


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


"Frum was indeed a critic of Palin, calling her nomination a "huge mistake" during an October 13 (2008, weeks before the election) Early Show appearance."


David Frum: "Two of our most plausible candidates for president in 2012 are leading Mormons: Mitt Romney and Utah governor Jon Huntsman."


David Frum: "I have a lot of regard for Mitt Romney as a man and politician… I will support him without qualm."



Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



14 posted on 05/03/2011 4:38:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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