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Is a presidential run really in Palin's future?
The Dallas Morning News ^ | August 25, 2010 | Carl P. Leubsdorf

Posted on 08/25/2010 5:14:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Robbin
So then you don't find it disturbing that the Government can pass whatever laws or regulations it wants regardless of what the Constitution says? I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? [...] They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other. [...] It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry peace, peace - but there is no peace. The war has actually begun. The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms!--Patrick Henry
61 posted on 08/25/2010 7:54:28 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Josh Painter

Dang case of fingers going too fast.
Good catch.


62 posted on 08/25/2010 7:55:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dr. Sivana; OneWingedShark
Now, no one is going to mistake Sarah Palin for Ludwig von Mises or Russell Kirk. That's okay. She's a solid conservative, who can promote the ideas better than the other candidates available. She puts demographics in play that weren't in play before. A handful of people might download and read "Wealth of Nations," "The Conscience of a Conservative" and "Witness." A lot more will get their entry from hearing a televised speech, a commercial or a tweet.

Doc, you just nailed it.

Because God didn't ask me if humanity should be overwhelmingly emotional or overwhelmingly rational, we have to operate in a political arena where emotions and impressions and charm often, if not always, trump intellectual substance or the significance of argument.

And if I can let my own stunted and chained emotions loose for a moment, Sarah Palin seems like somebody I'd want to be related to, or neighbors with, or to attend the same church or shooting club with.

She's the most genuine American I've experienced in the political arena.

She doesn't maneuver, manipulate, or dissemble. And being genuine makes her a majority of one in my book.

Besides, who else do you know that can cause multiple progressive cerebral hemorrhages at a distance using a single tweet?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

63 posted on 08/25/2010 8:19:02 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian

>Besides, who else do you know that can cause multiple progressive cerebral hemorrhages at a distance using a single tweet?

Glenn Beck. ;)


64 posted on 08/25/2010 8:22:55 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
To be honest: I hope not. And here’s why: many of the supporters of Palin come off as a cult of personality.

Some people are allowed to support a candidate.

Palin's supporters have been called names like "cult-like" from the very start.

Hmmm, must be over the target.

65 posted on 08/25/2010 8:27:36 PM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Sarah Palin fights, we cannot spare her."--GonzoGOP)
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To: OneWingedShark
And so you prove yourself to be a Palin-supporter I'm comfortable with; unlike the several attacks I've received for daring to voice an opinion that might be construed as anti-Palin.

Wow, you're such a victim.

Quit yer whinin'

You posted a very negative opinion lacking, for the most part, in substantiation in terms of logic or proof and you want to cry about the treatment you received?

You're behaving true-to-form for a Paulbot.
66 posted on 08/25/2010 8:35:30 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: OneWingedShark

You are coming from entirely the wrong point of view.

It’s the principles which matter, not the personalities. This has been explained many times. Don’t miss it again.

Palin focuses on the principles of the Constitution. Not on political idols. She doesn’t use self-serving, corrupt, inside the beltway tactics.

Conservatives have already won on ideas—leftists have nothing to use against them but twisting, stalling and hiding.


67 posted on 08/25/2010 8:37:39 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: CAluvdubya

>>To be honest: I hope not. And here’s why: many of the supporters of Palin come off as a cult of personality.
>
>Some people are allowed to support a candidate.

And I’m not saying anything about whether people should or shouldn’t support her; just that I get some “bad vibes” from a lot of people who do support her.

>Palin’s supporters have been called names like “cult-like” from the very start.

Some of them are; I’ve had experiences with some that suggest that... enough that I can say that there are a lot which do tend toward an cult-like mentality (notice I did *not* say most; if even 1% of a large population were qualified with something it could be “a lot” or “many” even though it is certainly not ‘most’); though maybe I just have a knack for stepping on toes.

>Hmmm, must be over the target.

Maybe, maybe not.


68 posted on 08/25/2010 8:41:22 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Glenn Beck. ;)

Outstanding point!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

69 posted on 08/25/2010 8:41:59 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: OneWingedShark
You came out swinging and name calling Palin supporters right off the bat.

But hey, I guess we are the ones not allowed to defend ourselves lest we be called "cult-like". We should just sit back and let you call us whatever you like, eh?

I don't think so.

70 posted on 08/25/2010 8:44:27 PM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Sarah Palin fights, we cannot spare her."--GonzoGOP)
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To: The Comedian

Well, this may tiurn some rinos away from her, but I am drawn to Sarah Palin because I believe she will do soemthing so very few Republican pliticians will do (if any!): Sarah Palin will pray nightly for guidance from on high ... and by God, I believe she will get help! Heaven knows, we the people need it!


71 posted on 08/25/2010 8:47:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: SoConPubbie

>>And so you prove yourself to be a Palin-supporter I’m comfortable with; unlike the several attacks I’ve received for daring to voice an opinion that might be construed as anti-Palin.
>
>Wow, you’re such a victim.
>
>Quit yer whinin’

Yes, having a different opinion and not enjoying being bashed about the head because of that is equal to whining and being the victim. [/sarc]

>You posted a very negative opinion lacking, for the most part, in substantiation in terms of logic or proof and you want to cry about the treatment you received?

LOL - So having a “very Negative opinion” is no longer allowable? I gave some of my reasoning, there is a [large] segment that of people that will give her a “free pass” for a lot of stuff and make up reasons/rationalizations/excuses why she did this or that; witness her endorsement of John McCain in AZ and the disturbing number of people here who excused it as “being friendly”/”showing she wasn’t holding a grudge”/”being politically expedient.”

>You’re behaving true-to-form for a Paulbot.

And what are you?


72 posted on 08/25/2010 8:49:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

So then you don’t find it disturbing that the Government can pass whatever laws or regulations it wants regardless of what the Constitution says? Of course I do, and I’ll vote for Palin or Demint to enforce the Constitution.

But Ron Paul is a nut. It’s that simple. Sometimes he’ll go for months sounding like the perfect conservative and then, right there on camera for the whole world to see, the mad hatter pops out. I’m talking certifiable. If you simply identify yourself as a Ron Paul supporter, you can have your say and we’ll roll our eyes and go on. Add Ron Paul supporter to your tagline or something.

I send money to Rand Paul, he’s a least sane. I think...


73 posted on 08/25/2010 8:52:48 PM PDT by Robbin (If Sarah isnÂ’t welcome, IÂ’m not welcome, itÂ’s just that simpleÂ…)
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To: CAluvdubya

Go back and re-read the post.
I said I [personally] don’t want her to run for president because I have noticed a bit of that same cult-of-personality effect that some of Obama’s supporters exhibited. I didn’t like the ‘feel’ of it for Obama/Democrats, should I like the ‘feel’ of it for a Republican candidate?

If so, please feel free to explain why I should accept & embrace it from the one group when I didn’t for the other.


74 posted on 08/25/2010 8:54:10 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
I said I [personally] don’t want her to run for president because I have noticed a bit of that same cult-of-personality effect that some of Obama’s supporters exhibited.

If you can't see how antagonistic this sentence is, then there is no point in continuing.

75 posted on 08/25/2010 9:02:00 PM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Sarah Palin fights, we cannot spare her."--GonzoGOP)
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To: Robbin

>But Ron Paul is a nut. It’s that simple. Sometimes he’ll go for months sounding like the perfect conservative and then, right there on camera for the whole world to see, the mad hatter pops out. I’m talking certifiable. If you simply identify yourself as a Ron Paul supporter, you can have your say and we’ll roll our eyes and go on.

Which is why he might make an acceptable VP; I mean look at Biden he’s certifiable MOST of the time and not utterly ruining the nation in his capacity as VP... of course, that might be due to his thinking that the VP has no place in the Senate. (VP as President of the Senate is actually in a powerful position, he could [in theory] propose/sponsor a bill for the Senate.)

In reality the VP is supposed to be about domestic stuff, not so much the international, and so someone with a solid domestic policy would be more suited to the position than someone with a “more rounded” conservative stance. And the times when he does ‘jump track’ into certifiable-land there will be enough other-people involved to dampen the effects; again, look at Biden.


76 posted on 08/25/2010 9:04:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: CAluvdubya

So, my reasoning is invalid because its antagonistic?

Good God, there’s no appeasing you without bowing down and worshiping the Golden Goddess Palin, is there?
PS — *THAT* was antagonistic.


77 posted on 08/25/2010 9:07:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: onyx

Yep, only Sarah knows for sure.


78 posted on 08/25/2010 9:15:13 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: OneWingedShark
What a funny post.

You don't like Sarah Palin because you don't like her supporters. You hope she doesn't run for higher office because according to you she is a celebrity.

The reason we support Sarah is because she has very good, conservative ideas to turn the economy and the country around.  She is for free market and capitalism, and she is an advocate for getting government intrusion out of peoples' lives.  Besides being a strong pro life conservative, she clearly articulates the principles conservatives value, and does so effectively.

You seem ignorant of Sarah, or perhaps you are just antagonizing the Palin supporters with your overstated language like calling Sarah supporters 'cultist' and using exaggeration to diminish both Sarah and her supporters.

79 posted on 08/25/2010 9:17:05 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: OneWingedShark

Wow...just wow. Do you miss evey point or just the ones you want? Have a nice night.


80 posted on 08/25/2010 9:18:36 PM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Sarah Palin fights, we cannot spare her."--GonzoGOP)
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