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1 posted on 08/26/2003 7:55:02 AM PDT by wwalk
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To: wwalk; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; an amused spectator; ...
You registered about 5 months ago, and this is your first and only post? In all that time you couldn't lurn to spel?
2 posted on 08/26/2003 8:11:32 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: wwalk
I prefer Altoids instead of Comandmints.
4 posted on 08/26/2003 8:12:49 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: wwalk
If I've said it once, I'll say it again, FR NEEDS A SPELL CHECKER!!
7 posted on 08/26/2003 8:17:35 AM PDT by 4mycountry (You say I'm a brat like it's a bad thing.)
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To: wwalk; hobbes1
Here's some smarter people than I and what they would say of it. Courtesy of hobbes1

"....Thomas Jefferson was neither the author of nor a coauthor of the First Amendment. He cannot be considered as a source of legal authority on this subject.

The Court, if it had wished to rely upon Jefferson to determine the true and original intent of the First Amendment, could have served themselves and the American people well by referring to Jefferson's admonition to Judge William Johnson regarding the determination of the original intent of a statute or a constitution: `On every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.' (Thomas Jefferson, Memoir, Correspondence, and Miscellanies, From the Papers of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, editor [Boston: Gray and Bowen, 1830, Vol. IV., p. 373,] to Judge William Johnson on June 12, 1823).

Justice Joseph Story, considered the Father of American Jurisprudence, stated in his Commentaries on the Constitution: `The real object of the [First A]mendment was not to countenance, much less to advance Mohometanism [sp], or Judaism, or infidelity by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects and to prevent any national ecclesiastical establishment which should give to a hierarchy [a denominational council] the exclusive patronage of the national government. (Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States [Boston; Hilliard, Gray and Company, 1833], p. 728, par. 1871.)

Chief Justice William Rehnquist made an extensive study of the history of the First Amendment. In his dissent in Wallace v. Jaffree (472 U.S. 38, 48, n. 30 [1984],) he stated: `There is simply no historical foundation for the proposition that the Framers intended to build the `wall of separation' that was constitutionalized in Everson. . . . But the greatest injury of the `wall' notion is its mischievous diversion of judges from the actual intentions of the drafters of the Bill of Rights. . . . [N]o amount of repetition of historical errors in judicial opinions can make the errors true. The `wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history. . . . It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned. . . . Our perception has been clouded not by the Constitution but by the mists of an unnecessary metaphor. It would come as much of a shock to those who drafted the Bill of Rights, as it will to a large number of thoughtful Americans today, to learn that the Constitution, as construed by the majority, prohibits the Alabama Legislature from endorsing prayer. George Washington himself, at the request of the very Congress which passed the Bill of Rights, proclaimed a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God. History must judge whether it was the Father of his Country in 1789, or a majority of the Court today, which has strayed from the meaning of the Establishment Clause.'
10 posted on 08/26/2003 8:21:10 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (There they go again....)
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To: Cagey
This is series and hugh!
12 posted on 08/26/2003 8:25:21 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: wwalk
I can see it now, upon death someone telling the Lord that the judges changed all that, they did away with it.
21 posted on 08/26/2003 8:40:05 AM PDT by gulfcoast6 (SMILE! The elderly would love to see one thrown their way.)
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To: wwalk; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; an amused spectator; ...
It has been an hour since you posted your first and only thread. You haven't answered or acknowledged any postings...I smell Troll
24 posted on 08/26/2003 8:45:45 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
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To: wwalk
Says congress shall make no law - did congress pass a law saying he had to have them there?
34 posted on 08/26/2003 8:57:15 AM PDT by chance33_98 (WWJD - What would Jefferson Do?)
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To: wwalk; VRWCmember
To VRWC member and all the others who are here...
May I suggest this poster has not returned because of the rudeness he's reading on this thread.

If, in truth, he's been a lurker, and finally got his/her nerve up to post, he/she sure didn't receive a kind welcome.

wwalk.....I apologize for the tone this thread has taken,
and I want you to know I, for one, agree with your opening statement.

I'm on vacation, and was just lurking from a library in North Carolina, not intending to post at all.

But I feel badly that anyone new is treated so unkindly, and I hope you will post again, but can hardly blame you if you don't.
Thanks...Guenevere
51 posted on 08/26/2003 2:01:24 PM PDT by Guenevere (..., ..Press on!)
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To: wwalk
I smell a troll, as well, but:

Can you still walk into a church, synagogue, temple and pray today? Is someone preventing you?

Please reply.

52 posted on 08/26/2003 2:39:27 PM PDT by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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To: wwalk
Where'd ya go?? Are you going to come back and talk about this?
54 posted on 09/14/2003 3:26:31 PM PDT by trussell (Prayer, It does a body good!!)
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