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CNS ^ | 8/22/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 08/22/2003 3:12:55 AM PDT by Adder

Christian Churches Should Stop Using the Cross, Group Says By Jeff Johnson CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief August 22, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - An interfaith group founded by Unification Church leader Sun Myung Moon is spearheading an effort to have Christian ministers remove crosses from their churches, calling them a symbol of oppression and perceived superiority. Mainstream Christian leaders call the request "outrageously bigoted."

The American Clergy Leadership Conference (ACLC), an organization that began as a project of Moon's Family Federation for World Peace and Unification (FFWPU), believes the key to "true and lasting peace in the Middle East" is reconciliation between members of the world's three largest religions.

"Jews, Christians and Muslims must come together to heal divisions of the past, to stand together in a moment of repentance and reconciliation, and thus, tear down the walls that separate us as people of faith," said Archbishop George Augustus Stallings, Jr., of the independent Imani Temple African American Catholic congregation in Washington, D.C.

The ACLC held a symposium in New York Thursday on Jewish-Christian-Muslim reconciliation and Middle East peace entitled "Harmony Amongst the Children of Abraham." Stallings, who serves as national chairman of the executive committee of the ACLC, told CNSNews.com by telephone that part of that reconciliation involves assessing how Christian traditions are perceived by people of other faiths.

"We have realized that, as expressions of faith, there are certain symbols that have stood in the way," Stallings said. "The cross has served as a barrier in bringing about a true spirit of reconciliation between Jews and also between Muslims and Christians, and thus, we have sought to remove the cross from our Christian churches across America as a sign of our willingness to remove any barrier that stands in the way of us coming together as people of faith."

Michael Schwartz of Concerned Women for America - a biblically based, public policy women's organization - was shocked at Stallings' assessment.

"If a Christian objected to a Star of David or a Crescent, we would know that person is a bigot. When a Jew or Muslim objects to the display of the cross by Christians, we know the same thing about that person," Schwartz said. "To tear down our religious symbols, to uproot our traditions is not the way to reconciliation, but rather, to recognize with respect, our own and the traditions of others is the way to true reconciliation.

"Just imagine if some misguided Christian were to suggest that the Jews have to take away their symbol and the Muslims would have to take away their symbol, not display it in public any longer," Schwartz continued. "That would be identified instantly as a statement of intolerance. Reconciliation and peace do not grow out of intolerance."

Cross is symbol of 'religious intolerance, forced conversions...racism'

Stallings acknowledges that the cross is central to teaching people about the saving grace offered through Christ's death and resurrection but, he argued, Christians have also used the cross to send other messages.

"We have held up this cross in the face of Jews to say, 'If it had not been for your rejection of Jesus, our Messiah would never have been crucified," Stallings added. "We also know that the cross has stood as a barrier in Christian-Muslim relationships because we have held up our cross as a superior faith, that we - as Christians - are superior over the Muslims."

Stallings added that "a history of religious intolerance, forced conversions, inquisitions and even racism as used by white supremacists" also follows the cross through Christian history.

"The cross does not, by any means, symbolize a 'history of religious intolerance, forced conversions, inquisitions or racism,'" Schwartz responded tersely. "That is an outrageously bigoted statement."

Rev. Phillip Schanker, vice president of the FFWPU, said getting Christian pastors to remove the cross from their churches involves more than just taking down a symbol.

"There are divergent theological understandings centered around the cross," Schanker said. "So, it's not just the symbol we're dealing with."

While Christians may view the cross as the symbol of Christ's sacrificial death to pay for their sins, Schanker agreed with Stallings that Jews and Muslims have different perceptions. Jewish tradition does not recognize Christ as the savior, and Islamic teachings deny that it was Jesus who was crucified.

Christians, Schanker said, need to consider those disparate beliefs and ask themselves if the symbolism of the cross is worth maintaining the divisions it allegedly creates.

"It's a matter of overcoming the religious arrogance, the religious chauvinism, the narrow-mindedness, the judgmentalism that often comes from insecurity," Schanker said.

Schwartz agreed that a judgmental attitude is a problem, but he said it appears those opposed to the display of the cross are the ones suffering from it.

"To paraphrase the man who died on the cross for our sins and the sins of Mr. Schanker and all those Muslims and Jews," Schwartz said, "they ought to take care of the beam in their own eye before they look at the speck in their brother's eye."

Schanker accused those who disagree with the anti-cross movement of overreacting.

"I'm sure, for some narrow-minded Christians, it seems like we're undermining or denying the very foundations of Christian belief. Not at all; nobody is questioning the salvific role or Jesus' sacrificial position," Schanker said. "But we're recognizing from within New Testament understanding that Jesus transcended the cross. Let's not continue crucifying him. That's not where he is."

Schwartz laughed in response to Schanker's statement.

"Getting these lectures on Christology from somebody who's announced himself as an enemy of the cross is really amusing," Schwartz said, recalling a comment made by a little girl in Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago in reference to prayer in Stalin's Soviet Union.

"Everyone is allowed to pray, as long as no one hears but God," Schwartz quoted. "This is the degree of religious liberty that Mr. Schanker will allow to the one religion that he apparently thinks ought never to speak its name or show its face."

Schwartz found it telling that a group founded by the leader of the "Moonies" would call together Muslims and Jews to renounce "the universal symbol of Christianity as something hateful.

"In the interest of peace, the three who believe that Jesus Christ was not God want to stifle the one who believes that Jesus Christ was God," Schwartz observed. "Is that peace through conquest, peace through surrender, peace through requiring that Christians cease proclaiming their Christianity? That is not an offer of peace."


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1 posted on 08/22/2003 3:12:56 AM PDT by Adder
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To: Adder; billbears; 4ConservativeJustices
An interfaith group founded by Unification Church leader Sun Myung Moon is spearheading an effort to have Christian ministers remove crosses from their churches, calling them a symbol of oppression and perceived superiority

Take down the Cross, sh*tcan the Ten Commandments as they could offend, and the Bible incites hate and hate speech, and should be censored, at least in part.

Excuse me!!! And we're not at war!?! Just go to church an hour and a half on Sunday, then go get your fried chicken, and "The Lord will take care of things."

The founding fathers lost their lives, families and finances--yet, we are afraid somebody's feelings might get hurt and they'll go cry somewhere.??????

2 posted on 08/22/2003 4:12:51 AM PDT by Ff--150 (I believe, I receive)
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To: Ff--150
We are at war and not only against terrorists on the outside but with ourselves. The good guys are losing...badly.
The US was a great experiment while it lasted. Within 50yrs it will be a poor backwater...probably still bickering over what went wrong.
Yeah, I'm just a little bitter.
3 posted on 08/22/2003 6:04:13 AM PDT by Adder
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We are at war and not only against terrorists on the outside but with ourselves. The good guys are losing...badly.

The good guys have been emasculated over decades. It's time for the men to begin to tell these losers, "There's the door, don't let it hit you on the backside on your way out!"

I disagree that this nation was an experiment, for it was set up by Someone who knew exactly what He was doing.

4 posted on 08/22/2003 6:30:34 AM PDT by Ff--150 (I believe, I receive)
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To: Ff--150
Excuse me!!! And we're not at war!?!

If not, we soon will be. A line has been drawn.

5 posted on 08/22/2003 6:58:38 AM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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Well, that Someone better pay attention real qwik because things are fading fast. Seems like there are danged few people suggesting that if one doesn't like it they can leave. Most are trying to stamp out those who stand up for the moral and the good.
6 posted on 08/22/2003 7:23:30 AM PDT by Adder
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the key to "true and lasting peace in the Middle East" is reconciliation between members of the world's three largest religions.

I know it has enormous influence, but Judaism is actually a rather small religion numerically.

7 posted on 08/22/2003 2:43:59 PM PDT by Restorer (Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
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To: Adder
the key to "true and lasting peace in the Middle East" is reconciliation between members of the world's three largest religions.

I know it has enormous influence, but Judaism is actually a rather small religion numerically, somewhere around 1% of the number of either Christians or Muslims.

8 posted on 08/22/2003 2:46:00 PM PDT by Restorer (Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
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I agree...Judaism certainly isn't among the world's three largest religions, numericaly. Obviously, in the Mid-East it is of utmost importance.
I am not sure that "reconcilliation" is such a great good thing...I'm not even sure what that means.
9 posted on 08/23/2003 2:55:23 AM PDT by Adder
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