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To: Morgana
Many Evangelicals wrongly consider the State of Israel to be a restoration of the biblical kingdom of Israel and any disagreement with it or criticism of it is anti-Semitic and akin to going against God. It is not. Even many Jews within Israel admit this.

The modern State of Israel is an officially secular (non-religious) state founded by Jewish Socialists largely from Russia which was established as a homeland for ethnic Jews in 1948. It is not a theocracy as biblical Israel was. It has no Davidic kingship, no temple or active priesthood, and most of it's Jewish inhabitants are non-religious or atheists, just like many American Jews. The Jewish people themselves, wherever they are in the world, remain beloved by God and still have a place in God's plan, but this has nothing to do with the modern State of Israel. They are a valuable, fairly stable geo-political ally to the US in a region of the world where we have precious few friends, but that's it.

15 posted on 04/29/2024 10:21:48 PM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: fidelis

“Many Evangelicals wrongly consider the State of Israel to be a restoration of the biblical kingdom of Israel and any disagreement with it or criticism of it is anti-Semitic and akin to going against God. It is not. Even many Jews within Israel admit this. “

Thank you. I just threw cold water on people but you tell it like it is as well.

This is NOT the Israel of the Bible. Had they been doing abortions in the bible God would have given them a what for..can I have an amen?


17 posted on 04/29/2024 10:24:12 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: fidelis

>> Many Evangelicals wrongly consider the State of Israel to be a restoration of the biblical kingdom of Israel and any disagreement with it or criticism of it is anti-Semitic and akin to going against God. It is not. Even many Jews within Israel admit this... the US in a region of the world where we have precious few friends, but that’s it.

That’s a fact-and-evidence-free crock of antisemitic shit.


18 posted on 04/29/2024 10:24:23 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: fidelis

‘Many Evangelicals wrongly consider the State of Israel to be a restoration of the biblical kingdom of Israel...’

no. that’s your creation, that’s your straw man.

we evangelicals believe that God’s Word says that a remnant of elect ethnic (genetic) Jews were, are and will be, according to Scripture, reserved by God for his purposes in His chosen land, Israel, and His city, Jerusalem, and that said nation, consisting partly of that Jewish remnant of the 12 tribes, is therefore rightly focused on denying the devil’s desire to occupy, desecrate and destroy God’s land and God’s irrevocably chosen people completely.

we are required by God’s Word, we all believe, to do whatever we can to thwart that plan. that is why we support the secular state of Israel, currently holding that holy place, sacred to God, and which is therefore rightly the focus of believing, Jews and Gentiles based on the Word of God. we have zero illusions that Jews as individuals are any less sinners that any other nation or ethnic group on this earth.

the word says oppose the devil and he will flee. so that is why we evangelicals (i.e., believers in the Bible) support the current state of Israel.

now you can argue that those beliefs based on our interpretation of the Bible are wrong based on Scripture. but please, don’t give us your Potemkin village version of our position and say that’s what we all believe.


40 posted on 04/29/2024 11:36:26 PM PDT by dadfly
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