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Iran's Bizarre Actions Just Screwed Itself, Russia and China
Tom Nash Report ^ | 16/4/24 | Tom Nash

Posted on 04/16/2024 3:38:16 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: Chainmail

You are completely clueless. Israel, with no provocation, attacked the Iranian consulate in Damascus April 1. That, even for western disinfo dullards, is an act of war! Iran was completely within its rights under Article 51 to retaliate. Don’t hurt yourself flopping around in the bottom of the boat as your media masters try to get that hook, line and sinker out. They’ll need to reel you in again tomorrow.


21 posted on 04/16/2024 4:34:51 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

You are exactly correct in your assessment of the Iran strike. The fact that few here seem to believe you just shows you how ill informed many on this forum are.


22 posted on 04/16/2024 5:12:14 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: StolarStorm

Obviously, the US negotiated something with Iran. But to be ok with this, as Hardspunned does, as if it’s a business transaction or something, is beyond the pale. Did Brandon negotiate that little Arab girl getting badly hurt, too?

I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. The US should stop interfering in the conduct of Israeli wars, and that includes intercepting inbound missiles. Thanks for the gear and all, but it’s our a@@es on the line, and we have to handle it ourselves, or in concert with neighbors.

But not the US. It has historically ended badly, especially for the US, every time the US actively puts a hand in. 1967, US Navy ship accidentally sunk. 1981, Marine barracks suicide bombed in Lebanon. With the greatest respect, I urge you don’t. Don’t.


23 posted on 04/16/2024 5:22:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: StolarStorm; All
We got 99% of them for a reason...

So we negotiated with Iran for them to fire hundreds of missiles and drones at Israel.. for what purpose?

So we could shoot them down? Why? Any action can be shoe-horned into a conspriracy theory if you make the conspiraracy large enough and complicated enough.

At some point it becomes ridiculous. Iran comes away from this looking incompetent and impotent. I do not see any propaganda victory for them.

If you claim the USA conspired Iran to reveal US military secrets to the Iranians... It seems a very uncertain and inefficient way to do it.

You can argue we spent much more on shooting them down than they spent on shooting them at Israel. But our munitions have "use by" date as well. We learned much about what they and we can do, as well. It is not a one-way street.

President Biden seems capable of much more efficient treason.

24 posted on 04/16/2024 5:26:11 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: hardspunned
That, even for western disinfo dullards, is an act of war!

The current regime has never been officially recognized as legitimate by the U.S. government. They have committed multiple acts of war against the USA. The USA has been in, essentially, a low level war with the Iranian regime for decades.

It is Obama, and now Biden, who want to reward the Iranians for their attacks on the USA, their support of terrorism, their flouting of international norms.

25 posted on 04/16/2024 5:31:25 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: hardspunned

Then, Israel is fully justified to counter- attack. Scolimce.


26 posted on 04/16/2024 6:00:01 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: hardspunned

Fair is fair.


27 posted on 04/16/2024 6:01:29 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: cowboyusa

Israel illegally attacks Iran’s consulate, clearly an act of war. Iran uses Article 51 to retaliate to ensure it is not illegally attacked again. In a world where justice is served and Article 51 fulfills its purpose, this should end it, the score, one Israeli illegal attack with 15 dead Iranians, Iran warns all parties of its coming legal invocation of Article 51 with no resultant deaths.

Should Israel retaliate, illegally again, to Iran’s just use of Article 51, Israel has just committed another act of war which entitles Iran to another just invocation of Article 51.

You know where this leads. Israel committing a string of illegal acts of war resulting in Iran committing the resultant string of legal invocations of Article 51.

Tit for tat to regional war.


28 posted on 04/16/2024 7:25:46 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: jimwatx

FR is rife with Scofield Heretics. They cannot bring themselves to ever criticize Israel lest God curse them.


29 posted on 04/16/2024 7:38:20 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: hardspunned

You really are an Antisemtic scumbag, YOU are deaf to correction.


30 posted on 04/16/2024 7:38:30 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Mr. Blond

Don’t insult Christians on a Christian site.


31 posted on 04/16/2024 7:40:11 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

First part true


32 posted on 04/16/2024 7:41:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind btw Alina Habba is fine as grits)
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To: hardspunned

It would hopefully end with the Mullahs gone, which would upset you, troll.


33 posted on 04/16/2024 7:41:16 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Chainmail

I all fairness

It would behoove this forum if folks could argue Middle East conflicts without the constant use of the smear anti semite

Even Israelis themselves debate it more honestly than dispensationalists here do

It’s like if one argues against Zelensky then one is a Putin lover

And so on

Israel’s need to punish Hamas is obvious

But the overall Middle East is extremely complicated


34 posted on 04/16/2024 7:46:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind btw Alina Habba is fine as grits)
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To: hardspunned

I wish you showed some signs of experience in that part of the world - but no such luck. If you only done a little more reading, traveled a bit more, you’d know that Iran been running an only slightly concealed war against us and Israel from Day One. The bombing of our embassy in Beirut and killing 250 Marines right after. The Khobar Towers bombing, the lethal IEDs provided to the Iraqi resistance - and now, in violation of international law, they are almost done with illegal nuclear and likely biological weapons.
Meanwhile, they are the ones who fund, supply and direct Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis - and Iraq. They have been conducting murderous campaigns for over 40 years and now they have decided to come into the open.
Are you really simple enough to believe that several hundred lethal guided weapons launched against Israel was an appropriate and measured response?
It’s war in the open and they will be going after us once they have nukes.


35 posted on 04/16/2024 7:53:00 PM PDT by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: hardspunned; Chainmail
Obama should apologize for shameful cash payment to Iran - 01/11/2020, by Douglas Mackinnon

Iran is indeed a dangerous terrorist state that not only has a powerful standing army, air force, navy and advanced weapons systems — including ballistic missiles and a growing space program — but also controls multiple proxy terrorist organizations responsible for killing and injuring hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children.

Included on that list of victims are thousands of American military personnel and contractors.

These were facts that former President Obama knew when he deliberately chose a policy of appeasement and cash payoffs instead of strength and accountability as the way to deal with Iran.

President Trump spelled this out in no uncertain terms on Wednesday [01/08/2020] when he addressed the nation while seeking to dial down the imminent threat Iran may pose to our nation, the Middle East and the world.


36 posted on 04/16/2024 7:54:44 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: cowboyusa

But I didn’t insult Christians. Only Churchians.


37 posted on 04/17/2024 1:59:45 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Anti-semitism is the devil’s flagpole. Wherever you see it, that’s where the evil is. It’s not left or right — the devil doesn’t care. And no sociologist or psychologist or historian can explain it, because it’s rooted in the hatred of God.


38 posted on 04/17/2024 3:22:47 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: linMcHlp; hardspunned
Thanks linMcHlp! Hardspunned is a weird one - acts as though Iran's been innocent bystanders all this time and Israel's responses have been "aggression".

Iran's an enemy, a truly evil state and ignoring it is out of the question.

39 posted on 04/17/2024 3:46:03 AM PDT by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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