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Posted on 03/22/2024 5:48:53 PM PDT by ganeemead



TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: childslavery; lithium; oil; slavery

1 posted on 03/22/2024 5:48:53 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

BS. No comparison.

Oil a the source of power, Lithium can store (DC) power but generates NONE.

All this EV crap is nonsense.

Solar power is a joke for solving power shortage, wind power is not reliable because the wind does not always blow at a specific location. (the wind always blows strong in the District of Corruption. Some from wind bags, some from farts of the corrupt)

Nuclear power is a source, but it has many bad side effects and dangers. Even it, is not perpetual.

So forget eliminating petroleum as the source of power.


2 posted on 03/22/2024 6:12:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Well Stellantis just fired hundreds of engineers and tech people, demonstrating their commitment to EVs.

Exclusive electric Jeeps and Dodges coming up!


3 posted on 03/22/2024 6:24:41 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Texas Fossil

But what about algae?!?


4 posted on 03/22/2024 7:00:21 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: ganeemead
The biggest lithium mining concern in North America is Exxon/Mobil.

That's all you need to know about this nonsense.

5 posted on 03/22/2024 7:11:19 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: ganeemead

Whenever someone tells me about EVs and how wonderful they are for the environment, I tend to shove articles like this under their nose....

https://www.wired.com/story/lithium-batteries-environment-impact/

“Demand for lithium is increasing exponentially, and it doubled in price between 2016 and 2018. According to consultancy Cairn Energy Research Advisors, the lithium ion industry is expected to grow from 100 gigawatt hours (GWh) of annual production in 2017, to almost 800 GWhs in 2027.....

....In South America, the biggest problem is water. The continent’s Lithium Triangle, which covers parts of Argentina, Bolivia and Chile, holds more than half the world’s supply of the metal beneath its otherworldly salt flats. It’s also one of the driest places on earth. That’s a real issue, because to extract lithium, miners start by drilling a hole in the salt flats and pumping salty, mineral-rich brine to the surface.

Then they leave it to evaporate for months at a time, first creating a mixture of manganese, potassium, borax and lithium salts which is then filtered and placed into another evaporation pool, and so on. After between 12 and 18 months, the mixture has been filtered enough that lithium carbonate – white gold – can be extracted.

It’s a relatively cheap and effective process, but it uses a lot of water – approximately 500,000 gallons per tonne of lithium. In Chile’s Salar de Atacama, mining activities consumed 65 per cent of the region’s water. That is having a big impact on local farmers – who grow quinoa and herd llamas – in an area where some communities already have to get water driven in from elsewhere.

There’s also the potential – as occurred in Tibet – for toxic chemicals to leak from the evaporation pools into the water supply.....”


6 posted on 03/22/2024 7:24:16 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: crusty old prospector

LNG is a reliable and clean energy source and readily available from natural gas sources from wells and methane hydrates available at Atlantic and Pacific coasts.


7 posted on 03/22/2024 8:51:33 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

But burning LNG produces carbon dioxide, the death gas.


8 posted on 03/22/2024 8:58:01 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Texas Fossil

I just learned that the World Nuclear Association is having its first formal meeting this year. Among other things, they’re discussing the use of nuclear power throughout Africa and a number of developing countries.

As I understand it, the Association is drumming up financial commitments from various governments and NGO’s around the world to pay some of the start up costs.

We should be on alert in case DC tries to give them money.


9 posted on 03/22/2024 9:45:14 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart)
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To: ganeemead

Great reminder!!

Thanks for posting :)


10 posted on 03/22/2024 10:30:32 PM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accoountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter )
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To: crusty old prospector

Mammals produce death gas when exhaling. Do you?


11 posted on 03/23/2024 10:09:09 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: crusty old prospector
But burning LNG produces carbon dioxide, the death gas a building block of life as we know it.
12 posted on 03/23/2024 11:26:22 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: 353FMG

‘Twas a joke.


13 posted on 03/23/2024 12:17:52 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Bob Wills is still the king

The problem with Nuke power? Contamination, security, and what to be done with the waste.

Yes, Bob Wills is still the King. smile.

I’m 76. Don’t live that far from Turkey, TX.


14 posted on 03/24/2024 5:06:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: crusty old prospector

A steam powered Stanley Steamer would be far more reliable. You could run the boilers with just about anything.


15 posted on 03/24/2024 5:12:44 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: jjotto

Stellantis, Chrysler’s parent company:

Stellantis N.V. is a multinational automotive manufacturing corporation formed from the merger in 2021 of the Italian–American conglomerate Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and the French PSA Group. The company is headquartered in Amsterdam.

I’d rather bet on Elon Musk, but I will never own an electric car. For a lot of reasons.


16 posted on 03/24/2024 5:20:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Could it run on Soylent Green? Asking for a friend.


17 posted on 03/24/2024 6:35:26 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

I doubt it, human flesh is not that flammable.

But early autos were a lot more reliable than some think. They were simple.


18 posted on 03/24/2024 12:26:24 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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