[Calvin Cooledge]

Here's my "anecdote", not covid related. A couple of years before covid, I was in for a routine exam, and nurse gave me a flu shot and pneumonia shot. Fifteen minutes later as I was walking to my car, I suddenly had so much knee and hip pain that I could barely walk. I hobbled back in to the doctor. He said the shot would not do that. But here's the thing. I had never before or since had pain like that. And I had never had a flu or pneumonia shot ever before that. I don't need a peer-reviewed double-blind study to know the two were related.

As I told a relative, who is a doctor, when you dismiss anecdotes you are dismissing patients' personal experiences.

[Secret Agent Man]

Yup. And a bunch of the same anecdotes winds up turning into statistical evidence.

[Grampa Dave]

Here’s my “anecdote”, not covid related. A couple of years before covid, I was in for a routine exam, and nurse gave me a flu shot and pneumonia shot. Fifteen minutes later as I was walking to my car, I suddenly had so much knee and hip pain that I could barely walk. I hobbled back in to the doctor. He said the shot would not do that. But here’s the thing. I had never before or since had pain like that. And I had never had a flu or pneumonia shot ever before that. I don’t need a peer-reviewed double-blind study to know the two were related.”

Before Covid, “That happened to my Wife a retired RN. Our county/city, clinics and hospitals in late September held free drive thru flu and pneumonia shots.

By then, we knew that the flu shots lost about 30-40 % effectiveness every 30 days.
Our flu season usually started after Thanksgiving.

So I opted out, which poed my wife, family doc and about half our adult relatives and friends.

I caught zero flu or pneumonia, my wife had both and her right hip went from semi problem to pain 24/7.

Then, covid idiocy came into effect, and her hip replacement was delayed for about a year.