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The Demise of the Electric Vehicle – A Whodunnit With a Shocking Twist...A surprising culprit awaits unmasking.
Liberty Nation ^ | 1/25/2024 | JOHN KLAR

Posted on 01/25/2024 11:18:00 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

EVs are exactly like the Ukraine War.

All based on payoffs to politicians and incessant propaganda.


21 posted on 01/25/2024 12:38:00 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

And you’re not sure how long it will last or how far it will go......................


22 posted on 01/25/2024 12:39:36 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

🥁👍


23 posted on 01/25/2024 12:42:03 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: gundog

that is the plan

most will be on public transportation


24 posted on 01/25/2024 12:45:26 PM PST by joshua c
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To: Red Badger

“Hertz also experienced higher repair and tire costs with its EV fleet.”

Just read about a surprised (shocked?) EV owner who learned his EV with 7,000 miles on it needed a $1,500 new set of tires. EV tires carry so much more weight they have to be much more expensive to achieve even that ridiculously low mileage.

If tires don’t go up in price at all, that’s $21,428.57 worth of tires to drive 100,000 miles!


25 posted on 01/25/2024 12:48:22 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: lepton
I did not know that the chargers quit working in the cold.

I'm not positive about this, but I think it may be that the batteries just won't take a charge properly in the cold.

26 posted on 01/25/2024 12:49:38 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: SaxxonWoods

EV tires need stronger sidewalls like trailer tires...............


27 posted on 01/25/2024 12:49:47 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
There’s “range anxiety” and now we have “EV tire anxiety” — they are lasting 7,000 to 10,000 miles.

I don't know about that. When it was time to replace my wife's old ICE crossover anyway 2 years ago we decided to replace it with an EV crossover and do most of our driving in it (26K miles per year, 16K of those miles charged at home) to save money since we drive a lot. (And there are other factors that make an EV fit for us, like we have 2 cars anyway so that one can be an ICE, the ICE is a pickup, we can charge the EV at home, we live in a warm climate, all of the road trips we like to take have good charging options, but if we have the ICE if we decide to one day take a trip with poor charging or up north during the winter, etc.)

Before buying it when I sat down and listed the pro's and con's of the next car being an EV or an ICE, like you I expected the tire costs to bigly increase in the EV. One reason I decided to get the EV is because I realized that the EV weighed only about 10% more than the ICE it was replacing. So yeah I'll have to replace the tires more often, but only 10% more often. Yeah that's an extra expense, but it's not a showstopper especially if I save more money elsewhere. Since the EV also reduces wear on the brake pads (because most braking is done with regen braking) I counted the savings in brake maintenance to about equal the increase in tire replacement. So far that seems right. (19 months and 48K miles later I've replaced the tires once and had no brake work needed, and I'm not sure how long the new tires will last, maybe longer, maybe the first set were cheap tires because they came from the factory, I won't know until I've driven it more and see when the new set need replacing.)

Don't get me wrong. EV's aren't for everybody. And there are definitely added costs that go with EV's. So if someone gets an EV to reduce driving costs don't do it unless you drive a lot of miles like we do (so the gas and oil change savings more than make up for the extra costs). But at least as far as my experience goes, the tire cost criticism is overinflated (pardon the pun).

28 posted on 01/25/2024 12:51:24 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Sicon

Bravo! No many know that?

Or did Uncle Google help you?


29 posted on 01/25/2024 12:52:40 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Red Badger

Electric bicycles are a big success in our retirement communities here in SW Florida. The cars are good for around town, but the SUV rules the road.


30 posted on 01/25/2024 12:52:56 PM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: grey_whiskers

“AOC” LOL yep, that would be a good one.

But what about her sister, “AEC”? She is the “All Electric Car.”


31 posted on 01/25/2024 12:53:52 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Alberta's Child

I read years ago a similar but different thing. That’s the car makers sell new cars they want to market at cheap prices to rental companies. Particularly if the rental companies with contracts from insurance repair (free rental while your car is being repaired, perhaps totaled). The idea is they want you to get your mouth wet for that kind of new car at a time that you might be in the market for one anyway.


32 posted on 01/25/2024 12:54:41 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“Volt”. A local TV reporter at the Denver Car Show that year was so excited about the new “all-electric” Volt. As he said that he was standing at the rear of the car and there’s an obvious exhaust pipe sticking out in the shot. I left him a voice mail giving him hell. “How is a car with a tailpipe all-electric?”, I asked. His reply: I just read what the Chevy people gave me.

I answered, “You call that journalism? Letting someone lie to you and then repeating it to the public?”

No answer.


33 posted on 01/25/2024 12:54:57 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Tell It Right

I can’t help but think the reduced tire stories don’t hold water, but there was another one two days ago.

Some people are suggesting that the high-torque electric motors are stressing the tires in ways that ICE cars don’t. I DO see lots of jack-rabbit starts by people driving EVs.


34 posted on 01/25/2024 12:56:11 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: FamiliarFace

“...she can charge her car “for free”.

My town of 2,600 has a “free charger”. The same car is parked at it every day.


35 posted on 01/25/2024 12:56:59 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Some people are suggesting that the high-torque electric motors are stressing the tires in ways that ICE cars don’t. I DO see lots of jack-rabbit starts by people driving EVs

I'll second that. I do probably scratch off in the EV more than I would in an ICE car of a similar type. Though admittedly I scratch off even more when I drive my ICE pickup (but that has to do with the pickup having no weight in the back if the reason I'm driving it is because my wife and I have to split up for the day and need 2 cars, but obviously not an issue if the reason I'm driving the pickup is to haul cargo doing pickup chores).

36 posted on 01/25/2024 1:02:05 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Good comment, but let us know how much mileage you actually get and how much the replacement tires cost. That’s where the rubber meets the road, pardon the pun. d;^)>
I think you are probably pretty accurate if your car is only 10% heavier than comparable ICE cars. Some EVs are 30% heavier than their ice counterparts.


37 posted on 01/25/2024 1:03:59 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Red Badger

Thanks.


38 posted on 01/25/2024 1:04:22 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Red Badger

EVs are the future, and always will be.


39 posted on 01/25/2024 1:05:33 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: webheart
I read the summary report of an industry conference up in Canada last year.

They had multiple sessions on “clean energy” and alternative fuels for motor vehicles, and there wasn’t a single mention of battery-powered cars. It was all about hydrogen fuel cells … because they know damn well up there that EVs are a major problem in frigid weather.

40 posted on 01/25/2024 1:06:11 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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